Not exactly sure and haven't been able to try an 2c's yet but i've heard they have a really bad body load to them. I recall having a friends bro tripping on 2c-e and he constantly had his leg moving and jumping around so I guess its true. Anyways I've read in quite a few places, that taking 25-50mgs of Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine) should help it a lot. I also would like some of your opinions on it. If anyone has tried it feel free to confirm or deny. Or try if you can that would be even better. Thanks!
I don't think you can really say universally that all 2c's have a bad bodyload. Granted I don't have a whole lot of experience with them (done I twice, B once and E twice) but from my experience and reading, E is the sort of the poster child for any potential negative body feelings, mostly nausea and intestinal disturbance. Other than that, B is amazing, and I is more of a stimmed up "issue" if stims aren't your thing. Other than the aforementioned I've only ever read of t7 being sort of a universal "nausea inducer"...maybe take some fresh ginger or sip ginger ale beforehand, you could really apply that advice to any substance though, as people react to different chemicals differently (my gf for example gets nauseous on damn near anything). From what I or close friends have experienced, if marijuana, ginger, or a bit of alcohol fail, you just kind of have to deal...it's just part of the experience with some substances.
I don't take anything for the 2cx bodyload, I feel it's noticeable but it's not bad enough to detract from the trip or warrant taking anything to attempt to mask the bodyload. If you are in a comfortable setting usually just chilling out and sitting/laying down for a minute will be good. Ironically now that I think about it, when I've taken 2cx in more stimulating settings such as clubs I tend to notice the bodyload even less.
What would you say has the most noticable body load? And what is it like other than the nausea, which I'm famous for getting.
Each 2c is very different in every way, including body load. I was going to make a thread about this, but actually I have found that 2c-b dramatically helps my Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I normally have bowel movements very frequently, especially if I've been drinking caffeine / eating crap in the last ~24 hours, which tends to happen. My primary IBS symptoms are urgency and frequency of BMs. Taking psychedelics tends to further induce bowel movements, on almost every one I've ever taken I've had to go during the comeup. The last 2 times I have taken 2c-b it's been at 20mg and 35mg, and both times I was eating crap and had caffeine earlier, and both times I did not have a single bowel movement for the next 12+ hours, and when I did finally have one, it was a perfectly normal one (not constipated, not diarrhea), and it had relatively little urgency to it. This is pretty shocking to me and I think has potential in the medical world. Of course, how to get this info out to the medical community when 2c-b is declared "extremely dangerous and addictive with no medical value" internationally by the UN is another story . With that said I have never had to resort to cholinergics like dimehydrinate for 2c's, I find cannabis does just fine, even as little as one good puff off a joint / one hit off a bowl. Some are fairly light in this area like 2c-b, some are extremely heavy like 2c-t-7, where I had literally uncontrollable liquid shooting out my ass and a nausea that would intimidate the most veteran peyote/ayahuasca shaman. Aside from the GI effects, the body load consists of tremors, primarily in the legs, and an uncomfortable stimulation. Keep in mind that all these effects are 99% only in the come up, once you are past hour 2, they essentially dissipate and you are left with the meat of the trip only, so it's just the body adjusting somehow. To help with the tremoring and stimulation it's a good idea to just sit and meditate and try to channel this surge of energy powering up inside you. Most of the discomfort is mental, so if you can sit there and just feel the energy moving through you without freaking out and worrying about it, it's going to be much easier. On the come up to last night's 2c-b trip I actually experienced panic and dysphoria for about 5 minutes as the physical discomfort (made much worse by the fact the dose was downed with champagne, probably the gassiest alcohol) combined with some mental discomfort at some things that needed to be dealt with, and it was quite a nasty 5 minutes there, but as soon as I burped, both physically and emotionally, the trip turned wonderful, and 20 minutes later all physical discomfort had ceased. Also with 2c-b in particular there is pretty dramatic temperature fluctuations, again mostly in the come up I find, where you can feel simultaneously too hot and too cold.
2ct2 probably has the worst body load, because the first half of the trip seems to produce very little euphoria as well. It feels a mild fever. 2ct7 sort of cycled for me where I felt slightly feverish like 2ct2 at times and a stronger sense of me thinking 'This shouldn't be in my system' but 2ct7 produces a good deal of euphoria as well to counterbalance the bodyload. 2ce pretty much feels like stomach cramps and muscle tension, some of the other 2cx's feel like this too but to lesser degrees.
Which 2c has most euphoria to it? Sorry for so many questions. I have yet to find a vendor for 2c-x and havent tried any before.
a friend of mine RIDICULOUSLY overused 2c-b [like...hundreds of MG in a day, a few times a week] and now gets horrible stomach issues with any 2c-x that being said, i've never had any hardcore stomach issues with any of them [aside from 2c-t-xx]. HOWEVER, i get strong bodyload similar to amphetamines from 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-p..mostly muscle tension. in theory, magnesium helps this. strangely enough, aspects of 2c-e and 2c-p to me seem more "ampy" than psychedelic amphetamines like DOC or TMA-6. but i guess the only difference between PEA and AMP is that methyl group as for nausea, try fresh ginger, or diphenhydramine [but the DPH is psychoactive, so i'd avoid it, as it may change the trip]. i'd recommend try them by themselves first...may as well feel the "full" effects of what you're ingesting
Each one is different man. The question doesn't even make much sense. They all provide their own type, level, and amount of euphoria, and that's just a small piece of the experience.
