The British riots were carried out by government agents, youth employed by the government and MI5 in order to justify installing its big brother system, increase police numbers and control the population by force as well as increasing surveillance on youth. I just made that up, but I bet it's what conspiracy and NWO theorists will be throwing around in a few years time, or sooner. It's pretty much the same process as most conspiracies go through.
Was watching CNN earlier and one of their 'analysts' actually used the words 'Big Brother'. So you aren't far off. I feel as though we lived without them before, and we can again. Its no loss of mine. I hate cell phones. If we have to ditch them, computers and resort to mailing simple letters again...I could care less. Would probably do people some good
You're absolutely right. But a true conspiracy can only exist if it remains unknown (or at least until it has fulfilled its purpose). The concept of one world government or NWO can't be denied, but the implementation of that concept to whatever extent can and should always be scrutinized and put into question. People like Alex Jones see everything through the lense of conspiracy, but it's when we stop looking that conspiracy goes undetected and fulfills its purpose - by then it's too late. Like it or not, we need conspiracy theorists. A whisle blower is really nothing more than a conspiracy theorists who was correct in his/her observation and spoke out.
I don't see why the implementation of a one world government needs to be scrutinized. Some people are terrified of it, though I have no idea why. It's no more of a conspiracy than the establishment of the US government was in 1789.
I think the implementation of any sort of government should always be scrutinized, don't you? I mean it's a pretty significant human endeavor. And you're right again, the establishment of the U.S. government was a conspiracy fullfilled and it was (and continues to be) scrutinized. A "world" government deserves as much, in fact, more - I don't think that's so unreasonable, considering that we're hypothetically discussing the system of rules under which the entire human race would be subject to.
People talk as if it's some kind of horrendous monstrosity signaling the end of mankind. Of course if it is going to form (it must, eventually) then the process and structure of it should be carefully scrutinized, but I don't think we need to watch for any hint of a politician expressing the desire to form one so we can say "see! They want to enslave us!".
I think a lot of people fear that the regime we will all end up under will not best serve the interests of mankind. A world government that continued the suppression of technology and use of harmful chemicals in the environment despite alternative methods, for instance, is one thing that scares people. When the world governement is being pushed by the same financial forces that funded both sides of every major war in modern history, surely that would make most people worry? I do know exactly what you're saying, though. David Icke and Alex Jones are good examples of people that view everything as conspiracies. Perhaps we need them, though, because we wouldn't put things under the lense and through tests to determine if they were or not if nobody said they were. It's a bit like science in that respect. How do you know if anything is really right or wrong until it's tested? It is a bit annoying whenever something happens and prominent conspiracy advocates (Alex Jones did this over the Norway shooting) claim they predicted it when they blatantly did not. They may have been monitoring and speculating, expecting this sort of thing to happen but they certainly don't predict most of these things, as far as the definition of predict goes. The weird thing is that soon after the riots started, my friend phoned me and said "these are those riots that you predicted" and thinking back, I had told him that there would be riots this year. I had expected politically motivated riots, though, not really the sort that went on. So I didn't really predict them. In terms of this being a conspiracy... Well, we do have some strange events. First - the whole Mark Duggen thing. CO19 were the group of police involved in that - the same group that assassinated Jean Claude De Mendez, a dodgy group of cops if ever there was one. Next, as McLeodanja raised in the riot thread - the magnitude of the fire started at that warehouse, possibly something that needs to be questioned further. The fact that police seemed overly lenient, apparently letting the destruction and criminality continue, despite it being in full view of the police. And, as a video that I linked in the riot thread will show you - the kettling of many young people in Birmingham prior to a few hours of rioting. Why had these people not been dispersed, or in the case of some why had they been trapped by the police, unable to go home? I don't really believe these riots to be a result of a conspiracy but I'm not right about everything and what do I really know? Not much. Of course it's easy to make up conspiracies but some of them you couldn't imagine... Just remember that there are many theories that have been proven as fact. Among them Operation Paperclip and MK Ultra. MK Ultra especially is one that only the sickest among us could imagine and similar programmes are still in existence today.
All this takes is a decent amount of paranoia, which is based on fear, which society propels via the media...
There are some conspiracy theories that make more sense than the mainstream theories. I really like how the media was talking as if those rioters were actually a legitimate anti-government establishment. Because you know, a bunch of spoiled bitches breaking into stores to steal electronics is so valiantly anti-establishment. Just a bunch of punk ass kids that need to have their asses beat!
