4-HO-XXX questions

First off, what should I get? 4-HO-MiPT or 4-HO-MET, from trip reports, I don't see too much of a difference between the two and google didn't help so personal experience would help. Also, I'd only be getting 100 mg, so would it be possible to say put 100 mg into 100 or 200 ml of water, drink my dose then store it in there for a while? Thanks.

 

Same question applies with 2c-P as i'm also getting some of that and surely wouldn't use that all in one go.

 

get MIPT!

 

Either one of those is awesome!

 

Any differences between mipt and met?

 

i have no experience with either, but from reading i've been able to get an idea of how they might be different. 4-ho-met seems the "lighter" of the two. almost purely recreational, not too deep. 4-ho-mipt has been described as a pretty sensual molecule, and it can give strong body vibrations.
writer up there has probably written a trip report on both of them.

2cp should be find diluted and stored in DISTILLED water. but tryptamines are generally less stable. they too will probably be fine, but i'd personally try to avoid putting them in water for storage...

 

Tons. Mipt lasts 3-4 hours, Met lasts 6-8 hours. Mipt is very vibrational, strong body high, very euphoric, energetic, cosmic, sexual. Met is very gentle, playful, sedate, colorful, not at all cosmic, and happy. They are totally different.

 

Thank you guys a lot. What I thought I was getting into was two things just like shrooms.

 

nope, nothing but shrooms is just like shrooms

4-ho-dmt is the primary active ingredient in them...

 

They ended up getting 4-aco-dmt in stock so I got that. If i want to do it with 4 people would it be fine if i mixed 100mg in however much in water and we all to equal amounts? Sorry for the dumb question. I dont wantto mess up or anything.

 

4-ho-met/4-ho-mipt are as different from 4-ho-dmt, as amphetamine is different from methylenedioxy methamphetamine change one little thing in the molecule and you're likely changing a whole lot about the subjective experience.

4-aco-dmt is the closest to mushrooms of the tryptamines that i've done, though still noticeably different. You can mix 100mg 4 ways, though I find that tryptamines in general do not dissolve in water well, even when stirred. Seems fine to just split your 100mg pile in half, then in half again, and let each person swallow theirs in a tissue or joint paper. This would be a nice first time dose.

 

writer's got a point.

IF it dissolved well in water, then that would be a more accurate way of dosing, if you measured how many milliliters you drank...but if it doesn't dissolve well, it might be just as inaccurate as eyeballing

 

Looks like im eyeballing. Thanks for the help. You guys are awesome.

 

Enjoy and I recommend having ginger ale / weed around because all tryptamines cause nausea.

 

I disagree, I've never had any nausea whatsoever with 4 aco dmt and 4 ho dipt outside of 'butterflys'. No experience with any other 4 subs tho.

 

Do you smoke weed on the come up? I get butterflies always, but often it borders on "uuggghhh pass me that ginger ale", and i did vomit once coming up on 4aces.

 

You may have missed my saying so, but I don't use cannabis at all.

 

for what it's worth (not much) i didn't notice even the slightest nausea on 25 mg of 4-aco-dmt. less than even the tiny tinge of it i get from LSD sometimes

 

Ah completely missed this. Doesn't tickle your fancy?

 

I find 4-aco-DMT absolutely gentle to body.
And about 4-ho-MET, I wouldn't say it's not cosmic at all (still not so deep as 4-aco-DMT can get), but it can produce quite intense experience.