imagine a primitive no electricity country

imagine a whole land whole country that was truly free. a land where land is land and you can just live like a human. you can build a log cabin wherever and drink from rivers and hunt animals from the land and farm the land and life is as simple as that. no worries no time scheduals just pure chill. and simple farming work which is easy and relaxing.

imagine a whole land under the law that the land must be the only remaining country/land to not advance into the future and not use technology.

kinda like how national forests n stuff in usa are protected but a whole country that way but allowing people to still build log cabins freely and live off the land freely.

 

I was going to post something similar.
Why just one country?


We are wild. We are free.
As a child or a tree.

 

serial stoned idea poster !!

 

No.

Then you have guys running around with muzzle-loading guns, fighting the guys with bows and arrows, while the children starve and the women beat the chained-up black people. Oh, and they all had smallpox. We've tried this once before.

Being primitive doesn't mean free, and being free doesn't mean primitive. If everyone's going to cooperate, why not cooperate to build something better, and use our full potential to harness things like electricity without destroying the planet? I see no advantage in having a free country full of sick (Or dead-I would be very dead without electricity and modern medical technology) people, over having a free country of progression, smarts, health, and fulfillment.

Even when that's how it was, there was still a 99%/1% system. Maybe an even worse one. The 1% learned and wrote and studied and thought, and the 99% pushed a plow. Just because you wouldn't know you're not free wouldn't make it freedom.

It's not "chill", it's subsistence farming. Ask africa how it's going.

 

I honestly wonder what person in our country approve of the idea that you aren't allowed to build a small cabin for yourself in the woods. All these people who want to conserve our national parks while forcing us to live boxed in in buzzing cities are mad. If I'm walking through a forest and see a guy living peacefully in a little cabin he built, I don't consider it "spoiling" the forest. It's a beautiful thing - living in harmony with nature, instead of the "keep out" laws we have now everywhere. As long as you don't go overboard (building a skyscraper) it should be allowed.

 

Hell no i would never give up city life

 

the point is keeping a big area of land primitive un altered by pollution and concrete and mondern stuff. it really is a good idea.

so you are saying how to stop technology from invading this land? people. if a mass group of people in this land are against technology and they spot someone trying to destroy the sacred land that supposed to remain unaltered by futuristic stuff then yeah the group of people are going to deal with the person not following the rules.

oh and overall I think there are more good humans than there are bad humans. so if someone causes trouble the groups of good people will group together to stop the bad people.

im not gonna sit here and type all day to expain everything for you but trust me keeping a large piece of land unaltered by technology is a good idea.

Edit: think about it from a pollution stand point. would not it be a good idea just in case somehow pollution fucks up techonolgy lands 300 years from now or something? its a good idea to keep a large amount of land nice and fresh.

 

yep exactly if anyone wants to live naturally how people used to its illegal haha. we are animals just like deer. we should be able to live off the land. not everyone is the same. I go camping lots its very relaxing. if i did not live in suburbs i would be out exploring a lot more.

 

It's interesting to look at these laws protecting national parks - The park is nature, but we are not. There's a red line drawn around the park to show it is separate from humans and civilization. The birds and butterflies in the park are included in our notion of nature, but not us. It shows quite well how we separate ourselves from our idea of nature.

 

Why do you think the world is what it is? Sure, the simple past seems quaint and idyllic, but in reality, it was a hard life. Necessity is the mother of invention, and invent we did. Whether we are better or worse for it, well, that is the great question. Sometimes I think... wow, this is only the tip of the iceburg, we have so much to discover, the story of humans is just beginning. And sometimes I wonder if we peaked, and are now beginning the slow decline. And sometimes I doubt it matters at all in the grand scheme of the universe.

 

other than medical technology i think living old school is perfectly fine. if I am outside with a group of friend all day playing sports talking whatever I enjoy my day just fine. There have been plenty of days I go out when I wake up hang out with people all day come home then go to bed. i don't need tv/computer. it just distracts people from going outside. think about what we are dong right now? we are talking right? sure its on the internet but talking it talking.

edit: and remember you are only so attached to technology because you were raised with it. humans have been doing fine thousand of years without it. I mean really think about the past 100 years. it has not even been around that long.

 

that's why I threw in that thing about necessity being the mother of invention. these things you hate are considered by many to be improvements in lifestyle. It's funny you say "other than medical technology" - the success of which is made possible by a whole slew of things that are a result of and deeply dependent upon electricity. I mean, go ahead and live without electricity, it's kinda fun, but when you break your arm, you'll be grateful your only option isn't to let your wounds fester in the dark

 

well with pcp and pain numbing drugs you can still preform old school surgery haha and still have drugs for the after surgery pain. so all you need is medical knowledge but stuff like cancer is gonna kill you.

you can build a drug cabin. a cabin full with a basement full of pills like anti-biotics and stuff like that. sure its stuff shipped from technology land but medical stuff like that would not corrupt it to much I think.

I think it would be nice to have a choice to constantly switch between primitive life and modern life. you could go back and forth depending on health conditions.

edit: I just realized that pills like anti-biotic go old. how hard are anti-biotics to create? I still don't think it would be super wrong to have a plane drive above land and drop anti-biotics to certain areas of the land every few months. a little technology can't hurt.

 

oh... ok... go for it bro!

this "drug cabin"... you should like sell drugs out of it for like people with prescriptions and shit! you'll bank!

 

Pollution is going to destroy EVERYTHING when it kills the organisms that you depend on for the oxygen you breathe. They ain't in your country, they're in the ocean and the rainforest.

Living primitively does NOT mean less emissions, and using tech does NOT mean living at odds with nature.

What puts you at odds with nature is when money decides what gets the funding/development.

Also, if you use a rock to break a coconut, you're using technology. If you use a rock on a stick to chop a tree or a stick to fling another stick at a deer to kill and eat it, you're using technology. And do you really think there's enough air for everyone to have a campfire, and enough land for everyone to kill game as they need, etc? That's not how it works.

People can live in harmony with nature without throwing out everything that makes us human. But if you're serious, you better get off your computer, and take off your clothes, and stop speaking english, and stop thinking about anything but where you'll find your next tasty grub. Or maybe a grasshopper if you're lucky. I hear grasshopper on the barbie's delicious... oh wait, barbie sounds like tech to me.

If you wanna tell me we should all grow pot and use it to make biodegradable plastics and that manner of things, and that we should recycle (I was just down at the thrift store, of all places, pulling fucking working laptops out of the dumpster...... Throwing out copper should be a fucking crime) all our metals (specifically copper, gold, and lithium) and that we should stop letting some people get rich for destroying the globe, while most of the world lives in filth, I'll agree. But saying that we should throw it all away is silly. It's almost disrespectful to the planet, to wait until it's this fucked, and then go "oh sorry, we destroyed everything for these advances, and now we don't even care about using them responsibly, we'll go back to living in the jungle".

Oh, and the medication I was speaking of that I require can't be kept in a cabin, it doesn't last long and requires a constant cool temp, by which I do NOT mean on crude chunks of ice cut from a glacier either, I mean around 43f. So no, I don't think a pile of antibiotics in the basement would work.

 

roor u don't hunt game. u breed animals. get a bunch of boy chickens and get a bunch of girl chickens and breed um and start a farm and keep letting the animals breed till u get a mass number of animals.

 

Oh, so like.... what we're doing?

So you're saying... doing what we're doing, in a responsible way that wouldn't destroy the planet?

You're totally right, I agree. But this has nothing to do with going and living in the woods without electricity. It has something to do with not being fucking stupid and greedy. And not buying chinese shit. In fact, as I mentioned, everyone living in the woods (especially breeding chickens in the woods) isn't going to save the planet, it would destroy everything that's left of the planet.

 

i just went days without electricity. it sucked

 

why are you so against having 1 primitive land???? if there are several modern lands already why make such a big deal at a suggestion about 1 primitive land? we already have national forest which I am glad we at least preserved something. but I am talking a bigger preservation with option to allow camping people to freely live.

right now if I try to camp in the wilderness for a long time then the park rangers will kick me out if they notice I am a long term person. would not it be nice to have a place where healthy people who enjoy the outdoors can maybe stay sometimes?

just cus lots of you love your electricity there is lots of us who like camping too. well fine us camping people can enjoy our land and you eletricity people can enjoy your land too. having the choice is nice. people have opinions and different people enjoy different things.

 

you need to do a little more research, cows don't live in the woods to well. Farmers figure it takes a little over 5 acres to raise one cow.