Bible Questions? III

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm a Christian not a Hindu. [​IMG]
     
  2. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Not us? Then you'll account to me. I'm not going to let you be a precious christian if you're not careful! I could hinduize you at the drop of a hat, being ungettable in the way of religion as I am.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It seems Hinduism has already gotten to you. [​IMG]
     
  4. thedope

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    I am one to talk. I am also one who listens.
    That is the form in which i said it.
    That is what I said, now what did I mean by what I said?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    you listen to yourself, try listening to others.
    That you need to get a life?
     
  6. thedope

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    If I don't listen to you, we don't have a conversation, it takes two.
    Here is where you can make a distinction, a place where perhaps you can discover what is you and what is someone else. That is not what I meant by what I said. You're question, "that you need to get a life", is not even a legitimate question, it is sarcasm. What kind of response do you think sarcasm
    deserves?
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You don't act like you think so.

    You asked what you meant by what you said, to me it look like you meant what you said but you seemed to want a different answer than that, so I asked if it meant that "you need a life". I guess that wasn't the response you were looking for. [​IMG]
     
  8. thedope

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    We have produced a lot of material you and i together. The evidence says it's true. If our truth excludes our brother, then it isn't true. God and his kingdom are one. What I say is true of you, I also consider true of me. I have, when I was, quite frankly not old enough to know better, believed many of the things that you do. But when I wore them on my life they created nothing but contention. i asked god for a better way, and he answered with the teaching of the holy spirit.

    No you said, no matter what I said, or when you say this it means yadayada.
    Now you haven't considered what I may have meant, yet. If you are just spitting out words to compensate for emptiness, then why say anything, emptiness will suffice. I can assure you, that I did not mean to make any claims of glory.
     
  9. Monkey Boy

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    What does the name YHVH mean? Is the name Jesus related to it?

    I've been doing entymolgy on the names the last couple days and was wondering if anyone else knew about their history.
     
  10. Wheels

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    My understanding is that it's something known in Judaism as the tetragrammaton, is said to represent the true name of God which is considered sacred. Yahweh and other names are some guesses as to what the name actually was. It can also be notated as YHWH and possibly others. Names found in the Torah like Adonai are other terms for the same entity. I can't answer as to whether it really relates to the name Jesus or not.

    -Atheist
     
  11. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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  12. Monkey Boy

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    Thanks.

    Yehweh and Yeshua are pretty close.

    In psalms 68:4 God is referred to as just Jah or Yah which is interesting. I was wondering what the meaning of the name is. Yah ->Yeah ->Yes is an affirmation similar to amen. 2 corinthians 1:20 says in Christ there is only yes. If you combine Yes with I AM it becomes an affirmation of being.

    It's funny Jesus says hallowed be thy name and we don't even know for sure what it is.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, we have produced a lot of material but what usually happens is I'll say something and you make a response that has little or nothing to do with what has been said and I'll respond to what you said and remind you that what you said has little or nothing to do what was said and that is the true evidence.
    The only problem is what you believe is a teaching of the Holy Spirit goes against all that has previously been taught by the Holy Spirit but does agree with what has been taught by Satan for 5000 years.
    Well, honestly, I would have say that "yadayada" would sometimes be an improvement on what you actually say, especially when you try to substitute man's wisdom for God's but even then I have always listened to what you said.
    Only the truth is fullness and that is all I've spoken to you. It is too bad the truth seems empty to you.

    As for "claims of glory", it would be good then for you not to keep trying to apply what applies only to Jesus to yourself.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    It is believed to be the causative form, the imperfect state, of the Hebrew verb ha‧wah′ (become); meaning “He Causes to Become”
    Yes, Jesus in Hebrew is Ye‧shu′a‛ or Yehoh‧shu′a‛ and means “Jehovah Is Salvation” or if your prefer "Yahweh is Salvation".
    A little but only what I've picked up along the way.
     
  15. thedope

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    Why do you think that?
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

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    Jah is just a shortened form of Jehovah or if you prefer Yah is just a shortened form of Yahweh and is usually linked with the more moving emotions of praise and song, prayer and entreaty and is generally found where the subject theme dwells upon a rejoicing over victory and deliverance, or where there is an acknowledgment of God’s mighty hand and power.

    It has no connection to "yes" or for that matter "I am".
    We know what God's name is, it just that the pronunciation has been lost due to the superstition of the Jews about pronouncing the name.
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    Because you would then be claiming the Christ's glory for your own and you are not the Christ.
     
  18. thedope

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    I claim what is mine in creation. Again, so what?
     
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    Did you hear about the the two Jews who were whinging to God about their sons leaving the jewish faith and converting to christianity, and God said to them, "And you bring to ME this problem?"
     
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    The great grandfather of the biblical Jesus, was Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was the high priest in jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC. The sonless Yehoshua had three daughters, Joanna, Elizabeth, and Anna/Hanna. Knowing that his Zadokian Lineage would become extinct unless his daughters were placed with future husbands according to the Torah, Yehoshua married off his daughters as child brides.

    Joanna, as a child, was betrothed to Joachim from the genetic lineage of David. Joachim is thought to be a descendant of the cursed line of Jehoiachin.

    The second daughter of Yehoshua III, was Elizabeth, the sister to Hanna and aunty to Mary. Elizabeth was betrothed to a young Levite by the name Zacharias of the priestly course of Abijah.

    HAnna/Anna, was betrothed to Alexander Helios III, (Heli) a Macedonian of the tribe of Levi which was also in line to the throne of David through his adopted Son Nathan the priest, who was the biological son of Bathsheba and Uriah the Hittite, who became a member of the tribe of Levi by his marriage to Bathsheba, the daughter of Ammiel the son of Obed-Edom from the tribe of Levi.

    Yehoshua died three years before the birth of Mary in 20 BC, and her father Heli, who was seen as a threat to the throne of Herod the Great was murdered in 13 BC, when she was 7 years old, and she gave birth to Jesus some 7-8 years later in 6/5 BC, when she was 14/15.

    hope that is of some help to you
     

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