no need to apologize for your freedom of thought.as to disagree with something you dont agree with is perfectly normal.but the facts the matter is any real genuine psychic dose'nt even know how they know what they know themselves..it may appear to the receiver of the information that their minds are being read,while in reality the information is actually coming to them from an added sense uncommon to the human race as a whole.
Well however it happens, the fact remains that there are people who are totally aware of my thoughts and a helluva lot more, and have responded explicitly to my unspoken thoughts and are completely aware that they're doing so. There has never been anything vague or unconscious or sporadic about it - the people I know who do this are spot on all the time every time and completely at ease with it, just like breathing. But these people don't advertise themselves as "psychics." And at least with me, they only do their little mind-reading trick out loud when nobody else can hear except other people who have the same ability.
Although the occurence has been rare, I must say I concur. That is not to say that a person that could read my mind would necessarily always have my "good" in mind...just simply that there are those that can do this.
Yeah Lynn, I would hafta say that there are many many times that I feel that these people not only do NOT have my "good" in mind, they are in fact the tools of Satan. However all in all, looking at all the facts of my experiences with them, I would need to take the rational view that they do have my "good" in mind... It's just that the process of bringing about changes in a person and that person's life frequently requires that the person be confronted with highly unpleasant and adversarial situations. And my mind-reader friends do what's needed, no matter how much I thrash and flail...
what you are describing sounds more ta me like the the gift of telepathic communication.and if you can hear their verbally unspoken words you would obviously havta have the samee gift yourself.but i do find it strange that you call what they do little mind -tricks if you believe it to be real,as telepathy is not a trick.like as you rightly said for people with the gift of either,be it psychic or telepathic abilitys, ya it is as natural as breathing.not a trick,as even th greatest magicians can'nt read minds.and being telepathic dose'nt necessarily mean being psychic also. or vice-versa.
I didn't mean "trick" literally - I was just being whimsical. I have telepathic ability - but only with those folks. They are much more than merely telepathic, and they are psychic as well.
Have you ever read any Linda Goodman? She will be remembered always for her writing on astrology, but she wrote about other stuff too. Anyway, the adepts she describes remind me of the folks that interact with you...and I would have to agree that in viewing it from the biggest possible picture standpoint, they (probably ) have your "good" in mind.
whimsical.Mmmmmm right.there probably are people with both gifts combined,but not all.they'd be more in the minority.how is your liver these days.back to its full health i hope.you were wise ta take that doctors advice way back then. sorry,just psychic i guess.
I meet people with those "gifts" a LOT - and I've paid a huge price for the privilege. And actually, I've never had a doctor's advice about my liver - and I've never been diagnosed with any kind of liver problem. However I did lay off my vodka habit, and I was concerned about what the vodka was doing to my liver, tho I had no symptoms of liver problems. What I've found is that if I'm willing to be humbled, I'll receive some amazing experiences in return. I will tell you tho: I struggle like hell with it - being humbled is a hard, hard thing to swallow, and a lot of the time I fight like hell against it.
Interesting, Lynn. Yeah, I used to have her Sun Signs book - never heard about her writing on adepts, but I would be interested in checking it out. I've encountered only one other person so far who seemed to be in a similar situation to mine, experiencing the kinds of things I do - and I could see he was in for a lot of the same kind of hell I've been through. Haven't heard from him in some time now, tho...
What sort of things are you experiencing? I think that the word 'psychic' may be an umbrella term for many very different mental phenomenon. Though usually one would say that 'psychics' are prophesizers, or soothsayers. This predicting the future is maybe my main problem as I don't think such a thing is possible.
One way to answer your question about what sort of things I'm experiencing would be to point you again to my Psychic History thread: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...?t=415730&f=49 However this doesn't begin to cover everything. There's so much to my experiences that I'm trying to write a book about them. I could touch on it in this thread tho, if you like. First I'd like to talk about the idea of what's psychic. There's an umbrella term that's much more encompassing and appropriate than "psychic," and the psychic umbrella comes under it - the term being "spiritual." The definition of "psychic" encompasses clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, telepathy, telekinesis, and precognition. I've experienced some form of all of these at some time or other - mostly rarely and sporadically, except for the telepathy - however the telepathy wasn't granted to me until I was in my late 40s. All these phenomena are merely signs and symptoms that should be prompting us to ask: What is the nature of reality that makes these events possible? Without some understanding of the larger context, we can't begin to make sense of the individual events. This brings us to your "problem" - your belief that precognition is impossible. So I hafta ask you: Why do you think this? With the universe as complex, mysterious, and unfathomable as it is, why would you think you know enough about it to hold such a limiting view? In point of fact, I can give you lots of examples of precognition from my own experience and the experiences of others. This is going to get to be a pretty lengthy narrative, tho - if you're truly interested, you're going to have to bear with me through several stories. Shall I continue? To start with, let's consider this recent news blurb: http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/10/did-former-weezer-bassist-predict-his-death/ And at some point we should also discuss the fundamental basis of reality that I touched on previously - the basis that would make psychic phenomena possible in the first place.
I've written about my friend Margaret in a journal entry and in the archives way back. I wrote then about her amazing ability at getting poker hands that were always a little better than anyone else,regardless of location=home game or casino. You get a straight--she'll get a flush. You get two pair--you can bet she'll get three of a kind. That's just the way it was. We were together as a couple for 6 or 7 years and I came to respect her innate abilities as well as her intellect. We met and lived together in Hawaii and what happened to/with her was beyond my experience. To wit: one morning she woke up crying and was very upset and naturally I asked her what was wrong. She said she had a bad dream about her sister and her husband having extreme difficulty in their marriage and were going to split up. That VERY day,she got a phone call from her sister and without so much as saying hello--told Margaret not to worry about her marriage because they were doing fine. That was the first incident and of course I remarked that it was quite the coincidence. She said nothing. The second incident was similar,in that she woke up upset and naturally I wondered what the problem was. She related to me this: Her dream that night was about a good friend that had asked her to travel north (from oregon)with her before she came to Hawaii. She did not want to go and forgot about it and came to Hawaii. Her friend was going to hitch north to Washington from Oregon and in the dream,she was with her friend in the woods (some place) and they were next to a cabin there. She described an entity-not really a person -she could see no facial features, beckoning her and her friend to enter the cabin. She said that in her dream,she felt very uncomfortable with what she saw and backed away from the cabin. However, her friend entered the cabin ,disappered and Margaret backed further away,seeing a van parked at the front of the cabin. When she awoke and told me about this,she seemed worried about her friend,so we talked about it for a while and then let it go. Some time later,we decided to fly to Oregon and visit her mom and dad ,who were divorced ,with mom living in Lincoln City and dad living in Portland. We visited mom for a couple of days and then went to see her dad in Portland. While there,we bought no newspapers,watched no television and pretty much played cards and visited with her dad for a week. When they had caught up with family events and such,we headed back to Lincoln City to stay with her mom again before going back to Hawaii. We pulled into town and saw that mom was not home, so Margaret knowing her mom's habits,drove down to a bar in town and sure enough,her mom was seated at the bar having a drink. When we walked in and when her mom saw us--she suddenly had a look on her face that was not in character for her at all and this is what she said: "Oh Margaret--did you hear about Beverly"?Margaret said "no--what about her"? "She was killed and they found her body in a cabin in the woods in Washington". After Margaret and I went our separate ways-me to Florida to do a sailboat and Margaret to do some travelling,the next incident happened. I was with the mother of my kids (Pati)in a nice little rental in Tarpon Springs and on one day there,I was building a toolbox for the trunk of my car and was about 20 feet from the front door, with my kid's mom sitting on the couch just inside the house with the door open. JOEL-JOEL--JOEL is what I heard distinctly and I said "what"? to Pati and she said="I didn't say anything". Some time later,I got a letter from Margaret and in it she mentioned getting shot in New Orleans. We talked about it later and sure enough again--same day I heard my name called. My opinion of these incidents is that perhaps millions of years ago-probably pre-language or when language was developing,all humans had these abilities to forsee events- to have esp and were enabled with an extreme sense of what the intent of those around them were ,maybe including the other creatures with which they had to deal, in order to preclude being caught by surprise and be killed or be subjected to some other calamity. Or merely to get by in the day to day living with others of their tribes. I think that someplace--way inside some mysterious place in our brains,vestiges of those abilities remain and sometimes "bleed thru" all the modernization with which we have had to adjust and consequently are not now needed. I don't know.I have had a couple of mysterious events in my life---but that's another story. I hadn't spoken to Margaret in years, but have never forgotten that amazing person. When she decided to learn Batik--her first one completed- sold for 200 dollars in 1975. Differant story. In fact,I called her last week and we are going to get together. I couldn't be more pleased about it. Me. Skeptical? Not so much anymore.
close enough ha! ha!thats good.glad your livers fine.humility is the opposite of arrogance.its a very special gift to be treasured.you already have the capacity to empathize an show compassion,so your not doin' to bad at all.
thank you for clarifying. if my comment hadn't been conditional, this would have had the potential to get very awkward and/or tense lol.
