Is 4-aco-dmt similar to shrooms? your experience?

If 4-aco-dmt similar to shrooms then I'll just cross it off my list because I'd rather shroom.

What did your experience show you?

 

Why would you rather do shrooms? What if I told you that they are similar, but 4-aco-dmt is better?

I'm not saying that, I'm just curious why you wouldn't want to try both

It's similar but still quite different, and amazing, and many people do prefer it to mushrooms.

 

My experience would be, it's the same only different. I find the headspace similiar with a slightly different "flavor", if that makes sense.
The things that make it better IMO are the ease of dropping vs getting shrooms down, the lack of body load and nausea (for me) and the consistency of the experience. Shrooms can vary widely from batch to batch and the trip itself while with 4 aces, you can gauge the experience by how much you take.

 

I consider 4-aco dmt a 'hollowed' out shroom trip. Shrooms come on more forcefully but are also a bit more intoxicating ime. They both have value imo but I guess it depends how much of a psychonaut you want to be. I'd say for the casual explorer if you have tried shrooms, trying 4-aco dmt is not necessary but I do think with the clearer headspace of 4-aco dmt and some of the slightly different effects that you can learn from 4-aco dmt in ways that would be more difficult from shrooms.

I say shrooms is a much more valuable entheogenic trip but 4-aco dmt is every bit if not more of a therapeutic trip.

 

I am one to say that 4-aco-dmt is better. It's more like what people talk about when trying to describe shrooms. 4-aco-dmt is extremely clean feeling to me, gives better colors, and lasts a tad longer.

This is all subjective and technically every trip is. Chemically wise, it's the same as shrooms. (minus minor alkaloids) I found it to be extremely close to shrooms

 

^^^it's not exactly the same, chemically. it's CH3-C(=O)-O- vs. HO-. one is theorized to be converted into the other, but it's just conjecture at this point.

 

Is that still Shulgins theory and it hasn't progressed past theory? Would be nice if more legit research would be allowed.
Was one of the analogs "PO" something? I had wondered why the rc scene hasn't had that go around.

 

4-po-dmt is psilocybin, which is scheduled. Psilocybin is also theorized to be a prodrug of psilocin.

 

That's it.. 4 PO DMT. Wonder why that one doesnt make the rounds.

 

cuz it's psilocybin. it's in mushrooms. it's illegal. and it's harder to make than 4-aco-dmt. i don't think 4-ho-dmt makes the rounds outside of it's mushroom vessel too often. it's out there, sure, but not common.

 

I've taken 4-aco-dmt but not shrooms. The first time I took it, it was fucking amazing. Simply too good. Sadly I was irresponsible with it. I took it 6 days later, had an alright trip, but tried to sleep right after it wore off. That part sucked badly. The first time I did it, it took me a while, but I slept in an hour. I was just restless. The second time, right after it wore off and when I layed down, we started watching a stand up comedian. He was terrible to me. I saw right through him, thought his jokes were tasteless and he kinda mind fucked me. That wasnt that bad though, Its just after that, I couldn't sleep because I had muscle twitches. It was like restless leg syndrome, on random parts of my body. Then I was even dumber, and did it the next night again because my friend was doing it and I didn't want him to do it alone. I had no visuals, disturbing thoughts and the annoying body feeling twice as bad afterwards.


All in all. It's great. Space out your trips. Don't be dumb like I was. Have fun.

 

4-AcO-DMT makes me very happy. It feels wonderful and I'm almost always in a loving mood.

I haven't taken mushrooms but I've taken aces up to 42mg and picture them not so similar.
I definitely recommend giving 4-AcO a go.

 

4-aco is much better, cleaner. mushies make me feel ill and have given me headaches before as well, they also are more confusing.

 

When I first tried it it was absolutely indescribable, very comparable shrooms and much much cleaner, if not in a way better (at least spiritually).
Works really well, better than shrooms and next to acid in comparison at least in my experience. I'd recommend 10mg or above, any less seems to feel like it's lacking.
It's brilliant, actually cleared a headache up and made me insanely good at House of the Dead with no crosshairs haha (typically am horrible at that game, I know exactly what I need for my next LAN party ).
Probably one of the very few rc's I'd ever do again.

 

^^^what ones have you tried that you wouldn't try again?

also, what house of dead game? i have overkill for the Wii

 

Do you smoke 4-aco-dmt or ingest it? i hear alot about people taking hits, I thought it was meant to be injested via capsule.

 

I think you're thinking of DMT, and people taking hits of DMT. DMT is not the same thing as 4-ACO-DMT, just like H (hydrogen) is not the same thing as H2O (water).

4-aco-dmt can be ingested in many, and probably is somewhat active smoked (all tryptamines seem to work when smoked) though the best route is probably oral.

 

Cool, thanks!

 

I took it orally the first time and the second time I snorted it with some 4-HO-MET.
Also I think it was the overkill version haha, I think I had a metaphysical debate on why or why not it was made for the Wii.

oh and for the one's i've tried pretty much 2c-i, 4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-met, mdpv, all usually through snorting. I think maybe 5-meo-dmt as well. That one may have been actually 4-aco-dmt, but it felt different and at the time I forgot which one I put on the scale so I don't count it.

The 2c-i hurt when i snorted it, not exactly sure that was supposed to happen though... snorting just seems to work faster imo though i'd imagine cancer of some kind might set in after a few years...

 

^ Many drugs, particularly the 2cx drugs burn when snorting.