Judging the strength of acid

I'd like to guess the strength of the tabs my dealer gives me. With one tab, I get moderate to strong visual distortions, and high synesthesia lasting for ~2 hours. Any ballparks on how much LSD one tab has?

I weight 72 kgs.

 

Sounds like at least a good 100+ ug hit. Quite likely more as it sounds pretty powerful for one hit.

 

I took an original orange sunshine tab . The world was transformed I was in a place nothing like the one when I took the tab. Huge beautiful insects floating in the Lush Grass. Everyone and everything beaming auras of different colors melting then reappearing solid again. That was the acid from the bay area in 1969.

 

Seems to me I remember always hearing about micrograms?, 400 to 600 seemed average. We always had a 4 to 6 hour peaking high. Take one tab, you left this world for a while, take two and you stayed away longer with all colors, forms, everything, that much more intense.

are tabs that much less powerful and that much more expensive?
we paid 2.50 or 3.00 a tab

 

Yes, it would seem so generally. Even if you find a 400ug hit you'll most likely pay at least $10.

 

400ug hits don't exist nowadays like.... maybe there's one of em in the world or something


anyway the average content in acid was something like 75ug in the mid 70s and now its closer to 50ug


orange sunshine was an exception at 300ug


but i dunno man 2 tabs is like 15 or 20 bux and that's enough to get you pretty damn high


wasn't minimum wage like 2.50 when it was 2.50-3.00 a tab?


now it's like 8.25 and 5-10 a tab (usually 10) so the price hasn't changed that much with inflation in mind


it's like 75 a tenstrip here, like 500 a sheet

 

I was simply explaining that whether the potency of a hit that you get nowadays was the same or weaker, it would almost certainly cost more, that being due to inflation as well as decreased availability. Obviously there are exceptions to this, but it's generally true.

 

IIRC, 7 to 15 uG can be differentiated from placebo by nearly all subjects. Carefully measure and cut out an eighth of a dose. If you get a definite buzz from it, a full dose is probably around 56 to 120 uG at least.





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why does everyone always describe tripping as being in another world? personally, taking drugs makes me hyper aware of how awesome the world i am already in is. the patterns you see are already all basically there you just aren't concentrating hard enough. look at the globs of paint on your ceiling for long enough and you'll see the similarities and optical illusions for yourself without being dosed

also check this out: http://www.miqel.com/entheogens/true_and_false_hallucinations-1.html

 

I didn't recall correctly. In the Sidney Cohen MD book where he studies other studies' data (The Beyond Within), he gives 20 uG as the dosage that can be differentiated from a placebo "by most subjects." (Cohen reviewed the work of 44 researchers who administered over 25,000 trips to about 5000 people while the drug was legal). I still think I've seen the "7 to 15 uG" somewhere...

Surprising to me- he further reports "some 5% of people will state that no particular changes of any sort occurred after taking 75 to 100 micrograms."

He goes on to report on studies that tracked LSD through the body revealed that when a 100 uG dosage is taken, only two one-hundredths of one microgram even make it to the brain, and even then only momentarily- by the time the effects begin about 45 mins later, there is no LSD still in the brain.

In terms of side effects from the days of pure lab LSD, "chilliness and nausea are the only ones mentioned with any frequency."

This is old info too, so I'm not sure if later research confirmed any of this.

 

The microgram dosage per hit is lower though as well, so acid is quite a bit more expensive now. If you look at some of the older heads trip experiences that's going to cost about $50-60 to get to that same level of trip today.

 

Last year I ate a 10 strip of plain white blotter, no designs on it or anything, that was given to me by this really nice girl. I had eaten this amount numerous times in the past with not too many problems, although it can be a bit much at times... I was in a really good space and we were having such a good time so I decided to go for it. This acid ended up being way stronger than typical blotters. I could have probably eaten two squares and been more than high enough. I really started to freak out once I realized how very high I was. Things ended up being ok though and I guess what I'm trying to say is that the best way to test the potency of acid is to eat one or two doses.

 

I once took one hit of what we used to call window pane, sat in a phone booth for 4 hours while my friend who had also done one hit played Tull's Thick as a Brick, for our first time hearing it.

Magical-I had my eyes closed for most of it and to this day, can close my eyes and start seeing the same patterns.

Not that LSD did any of us any harm

But we knew everyone we got it from or where it came from-the only downside was strychnine cramps, especially if you chewed a few down.

 

^^strychnine is a myth, dude. please don't perpetuate it. LSD has side effects. cramps can be one of them. strychnine doesn't even fit on blotter paper.

the strongest hits i've ever eaten where advertised at ~150 ug. they are probably more like a solid 80-100 ug. and the standard "100 ug" hit, is probably more like 60...

 

The only cramps I ever got from tripping on acid was the ones I got in my face from grinning like a monkey for 6-8 hours.

 

Noted-I.S.C.

 

I suggest it is probably a good thing that acid dosages are so much lower now.

I probably ate 300 plus hits of acid as a kid.

My first trip was in 68? and was a good 24 hours long. Half was so much hallucinations that just sitting some place (usually where I was when it came on) was the best thing to do. All of reality was very mallable. I could turn giant water towers into small water towers, buildings into monopoly pieces, etc. I remember one night getting stuck behind my house with a bud (we always tripped together). My back door to the house was the basement and had sliding glass doors. The doors shrunk. They were only about six inches tall. Hours went by before my giant brother openned the doors. He seemed about 100 feet tall. That set of hallucinations faded into tex avery cartoons everywhere. I became a giant rabbit for about four hours. The usual trip was 18-24 hours. Big committment in time and internal fortitude. I took my SAT's tripping. Got 1250 first and only time I took them. They didn't matter back then.

One trip I was an old black man living in the swamps of Georgia in the late 1880's, fishing all day in the hot sun. I was brought out of it after 12 hours went the sky broke open and a giant hand hit me in the head. It was my bud bringing me back to a very disney land world of letters, numbers and cartoon characters emerging in waves from every sharp angle of the room.

We tripped not to party, but because we wanted to expand the idea of what was real and what wasn't real. I started because I read the Electric Koolaid Acid Test and had to do this.

I ultimately purchased, as a kid, grams of liquid acid and would make my own blotters. Took some trial and error but I could make several thousand blotters, and sold them for $3 a piece. They were blistering trips.

I have no idea what it would be like today but with the weak dosages, sounds like it would not be a life altering adventure. That was the only reason I did it...I wanted to see and go places that this reality did not provide.

I wanted escape velocity and achieved it. Otherwise, why bother? Eat mushrooms, do ayuasca, etc.

I am 58, have a law degree and a few others, own a business, have a wife and kids grown up and life turned out. Tripping allowed me to realize that everything is relative..and nothing is truly permanent. Thus, the only thing to worry about is the price of beer. Otherwise, wait, and whatever you are worried about will be replaced by something else...tomorrow.

Just like hallucinations. Always changing.

 

^^there's still strong acid around that can be life changing.

are you talking about all those effects from one hit?

i have a hard time believing that you tripped for a full 24 hours from LSD.

 

During that period there were some doses going around that were LSD & DOC (known as STP at the time) combined, the infamous "brown acid" at woodstock was one, So he may have taken something like that. That would certainly account for such a long trip.

 

i did not know that there was LSD MIXED with DOM (wasn't it DOM, not DOC) back then. i definitely heard "don't eat the brown acid" when i was like 14. didn't try acid til i was 19.