After being sober for about a week now from all substances other than caffeine, Lexapro, and Seroquel, I have been constantly looking if my abuse of MDMA has affected my mental health in ways I have not seen yet. My depression seems a bit worse, probably just because we're discontinuing my Vyvanse script until college starts back up in January. After stopping all drug usage, I'm tired, I used to be extremelt anxious, and get panic attacks frequently, but they seem so distant now and sleeping has been easier. My memory seems fine, but is a little rusty after stopping the Vyvanse as well as I have ADD. Mood swings I have noticed out of nowhere, but I was told this could be the Lexapro working its way into my system. Other than any other detox/withdrawal symptoms, I have not noticed much. Hopefully I was lucky and sustained minimal damage from my use, possibly thanks to Piracetam? Anyways, I have seen what this substance can do, its great things, and bad things. I have grown to respect Molly, she can help you make friends, be confident, and even help you in school (at least for me). But she can also hurt you, especially if you chew on her too often. Maybe in the future (like at least a year from now) at a concert or something I will pay a visit and thank Molly as she did give me my group of friends today, as terrible as that sounds. But back on topic, I was wondering if anyone else here has seen the darkside of Molly firsthand or seen a friend who she curb stomped because of overuse. And remember respect Molly.
I have not noticed any long term negative effects from MDMA, I've always used other drugs in the time span I've used MDMA so I'm not sure what I could blame on the MDMA. I've become somewhat more socially withdrawn and depressed in the past couple years but I don't know if I would blame that on MDMA or a dozen of the other substances I've tried. I've had many great experiences with friends on MDMA like you, so I'm leaning towards one of the other substances have a more role to be withdrawn.
In the midst of my absurd Molly use, I noticed that I'd be exceptionally outgoing when rolling, then a completely withdrawn person otherwise. I think that actually may have been a part of my cycle with using it. I needed it to be social.
You didn't need it to be social, you just chose to use it to try to fight an antisocial comedown. No, you're not in MDMA withdrawl. But depending on the extent of your misuse, you could have sustained damage to your seratonin system, with some degree (probably a high degree) of permanence. Possible effects include mood swings and depression. I don't know, but am vaguely familiar with a fellow who went off to college a long way away to escape his overbearing parents, did something like you, and now the poor guy is basically always down in the dumps, he's just not that happy and used to be outgoing and whatnot.
I agree I'm not in withdrawal from it, its not physically addicting, but I think its psychological addiction potential often overlooked. I see it especially where I'm from (Chi-town). Where I know far too many people who use at least once a week, and that once includes anywhere from 2 mints to 7. I also know people who have consumed around 6-7 grams in a month. A lot of these people are successful college students or have some well-paying jobs too. At least here, it becomes a lifestyle from what I've seen.
scientific studies have proven that MDMA is nuerotoxic along with speed and that they destroy receptors in the brain. these receptors to grow back slowly over time but scans have show that they never truly go back 100% to how they were originally. so everytime you do mdma or speed you are slightly changing your brain. some people can handle it others can't. speed and mdma has caused lots of people serious mental health issues and is a big cause of psychosis in mental health patients.
Sounds like methbombs anyway. Meth is neurotoxic too though. The psychologically addictive potential of chocolate may also be overlooked. I don't think MDMA is particularly addictive in any way, but like anything, you can abuse it if you really try and use drugs as ignorantly as you can.
I agree 500% I feel kind of lucky that with my personality issues that I have never come across a steady connection for opiates, coke, or benzos. Although I was prescribed Xanax for some time, but being inpatient helped get me off those and the withdrawals are a bitch.
Do you have any sources for this? I've never heard MDMA causing psychosis in indivuals and in fact I've seen a recent video where a mental health professional said in her 10 + year tenure they had never admitted someone due to MDMA... Let's not confuse a bad trip with psychosis.
(meth)amphetamine is indeed linked in medical literature of psychosis ("amphetamine psychosis") which i'm pretty sure that is mostly just people staying up for 6 days straight on speed and going through your average sleep deprivation craziness mixed with a strain on the serotonin system. I had a doctor once tell me that the worst drug to be addicted to period is amphetamine, not heroin or cocaine. With those two you'll just die one day, probably painlessly, but with an amphetamine habit you will permanently bludgeon your brain so badly that the MRI scans of such people are truly frightening to look at, and their inner mental world must be a hellscape of paranoia, depression, agitation, and a forever unquenchable thirst for more more more. These things are only dangerous when abused, like anything else. No one is going to take MDMA once and have a psychotic breakdown, same for speed, or meth.
^While smoking one meth of dose probably won't create a psychotic reatction, I know people personally who have had psychotic reactions from Meth, even had a psychotic reaction from MDPV myself. I've never heard of anyone having a psychotic reaction from MDMA, it's unique sertonergic effects simply are not as reinforncing as other amphetamines, it shouldn't even be related to most amphetamines and stimulants on this issue. The 'magic' effects either start to wain or it starts becoming more flooring/hallucinogenic after a couple doses.
what I mean is that some people can't handle having their chemicals off balance. after abusing drugs for a long time your brain chemicals are off. and it causes some people to go crazy when they are depressed all the time from not having their serotonin receptors working normally.
I have personally been hurt by MDMA. The abuse was completely my fault, for you must take responsibilities for your own actions. I used probably up to three times a week for three to four months straight. The first few times was amazing but after that shit just went sour. I realized almost right away that I kept wanting to roll more and more. I was ADDICTED which some people say is impossible but I call their bullshit. I have been clean for half a year now and I still have effects like I'm rolling sometimes......the good and the bad. But to me the good is even bad when I am getting these effects but not actually taking a drug. I experience visuals.....squiggly lines of colors, random sparkly dots or colors as well, tracers off of things...all very visual in that sense. I clench my jaw often. I worry constantly. I feel like I have become OCD. Paranoia comes at night when I'm alone. I'm super sensitive to what others say, depression was there but is going away slowly. Massive panic attacks. None of which I was going through (minus depression-I think it actually helped me there) was I experiencing before this drug usage. Not good. I hung out with a friend I used to roll with not long ago and they looked shitty. They don't really eat, they were looking out their windows with paranoia, couldn't focus on anything and I could just SEE the long term effects. It makes me truly sad to hear and read about all of this absurd drug usage and all of the EXCUSES that come with it. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful to experience once or twice but it's become a crutch. Do people really think they need drugs for life to be beautiful????
It's changed me significantly. Sometimes, I think for the better.. i'd of never experienced what I did without e or m. The two years me and my gf took endless amounts and it's some of the best times and memories of my life. We abused it, but by ourself and under control.. not out partying or dealing or anything bad. Just buy a hundred pills at a time and take most of them ourself, weekdays, weekends.. it was an endless party that caught up to us. But now looking back, it's different, i don't feel as energentic, or as happy as before.. I find the need to want to do some sort of substance here and there for fun. My stomach has been a very different being since after stopping.. my appetite is not near what it was. Once for a week or two after, I felt a huge depression that I thought was never going to leave. It eventually faded away, and my mood risen again, but ever since then i feel like I have a different feeling in my life overall.. I can't say it's bad or good, but it's different. I'm sure it's done some harm to me, psysically if anything, mentally it's probably been more helpful than not to get me to this point where I am a very happy person no matter what's happening to me. .. and sometimes I miss how things were before getting into e or m, but i wouldn't take it back for anything in the world because it taught me alot as well.
