Increasing the strength of MJ

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by FinShaggy, Dec 4, 2011.

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  1. FinShaggy

    FinShaggy Banned

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    Here's some information to get the most of out your Medicine.
    Just if you don't have a lot, or you'd like to maybe see if it can do more for you [​IMG]

    If anyone has any more information than me, please post it

    First and biggest HOLD THAT SHIT IN-
    If you're not sick, or crazy asthmatic, hold that shit in. Let that THC flow a little in your lungs. Maybe take an extra breath of fresh air to stir up the smoke, but don't breath out. GET HIGH, let your vision get snowy like a broken TV before you let out that first green hit [​IMG]

    Kava Kava-
    If you eat it 30 min before weed smoke, it increases the effects. It may be like your first time smoking again. There is a great synergy with these two plants [​IMG]

    Caviar-
    Dip your weed in BHO before the butane has evaporated. Get a nice fat nug straight SOAKED in BHO. It'll be dank as SHIT

    Kratom-
    There is no "synergy" here, more just Kr + Mj is nice. can be drank or smoked

    Cat Nip-
    I have NEVER personally done this, but there's a definite possibility. The cats are really getting high on something. And I've read some stories on Erowid, looked like they were written by 13 year old though...

    Caffeine + L-Theanine:
    The L-Theanine itself makes you feel mellow, but what it does with caffeine is 100% reverse the effects. So that the caffeine focus's more on pleasure receptors, or getting you down like a pain killer. And mixed with bud it's alright. And L-Theanine is already somewhere in your brain or something I'm pretty sure, so it's alright...

    Valerian root-
    I haven't tried this myself, but I saw a dispensary that mixed keif and valarian root for a sleepy pill.

    I might try to remember more later...
    But there's that...
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  2. Korey

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    #1 way to increase MJ's strength IMO is to take a short break and let your tolerance dwindle.
     
  3. RooRshack

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    Ooooohhhh boy.

    THC moves into your blood stream quickly and easily, this isn't salvia we're smoking, holding beyond a few seconds does more harm than good. Hold if you're desperate for a bitta' high and don't give a fuck about the ability to breathe.

    Kava Kava-well sure, synergy is nice, glad you found something you like.

    Your "caviar" idea-sure, I guess, not much point though, when you can just dab bho on top of weed and smoke the shit, lot easier than making a sticky fucking mess, and having no weed to smoke while your bho dries, to boot.

    kratom-what the fuck is this even doing here? It's an opioid containing plant (I say opioid because I don't think it's chemically related to the classical opiates found in the opium poppy) and gets you high, but so? There's lots of things that get you high, kratom is interesting, and junkies and others like it for various reasons, but...... so? If you're making a list of "legal high's", this will take all year.

    catnip-gets you "high" at first, then you realize you're just fucking tired. And 3 days later, you'll stop being tired. Not a good substitute. Would be a fine sleep aid, but you're still FUCKIN tired when you wake up, and it's just beginning. Maybe the tea is different, heard good things about it that way.

    Caffeine + L-Theanine- Sure, knock yourself out. Things being in your brain does not mean you can just take all you want and it's okay, and I have not tried L-theanine, but caffeine has the potential to have a great synergy with bud.

    Valerian root-Will NOT get you high, it's not a strong sleep aid, it's just useful. You can also hurt your kidneys or liver on too much, I think. I wouldn't go over 1.2 grams, based on what I read in a medical book listing various plants. My bottle specifies up to 900mg, and I have rarely taken more. Gives you restful sleep, doesn't do anything like ambien or something.... Also, like 300mg in the morning can calm you down, if you have social anxiety/stage fright/just excitation for whatever reason.

    And there ya have it-your list with some thought applied:2thumbsup:
     
  4. walsh

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    I don't know about the caffeine tip. If you're prone to psychotic or panicky thoughts from THC, the extra dopamine boost from caffeine can sometimes be a recipe for increasing those. I avoid it altogether.
     
  5. jo_k_er_man

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    the longer you hold your hit.. the less oxygen that's going to your brain.. that extra "high" you get from it.. is called brain damage
     
  6. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Yeah. While some of your combinations would obviously work (Kava, a benzodiazpeine-like plant and Kratom, an opioid-containing plant) because combining Cannabis with a euphoriant or sedative obviously would make things brighter.

    The stuff about caffeine and L-Theanine is somewhat true but again, it is just combining something generally 'relaxing' with another relaxing thing (Cannabis).

    And from ALL literature I have read, there is no benefit from holding in Cannabis smoke for more than 3-5 seconds. All of the cannabinoids are absorbed by the lungs very, very quickly. That is why smoking is considered the MOST rapid method of administering a drug, even quicker than injection. It occurs in seconds.

    But, yes, your general point that combining natural relaxing herbs with another relaxing plant, Cannabis, is a pleasant experience, is true.
     
  7. jo_k_er_man

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    i've gotten really high before and then drank a rockstar and got crazy increased anxiety that i had not gotten before from the very same weed.. this has happened on a couple occasions actually.. thinking that it was just a fluke.. but every time i get more anxious than normal
     
  8. FinShaggy

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    Whatever.
    Lack of oxygen for a few moments, doesn't cause brain damage.
    You still HAVE oxygen, just very little, in your lungs and blood for a little bit.
    My point was just to make your Cannabis experience stronger, sometimes you feel like you've burnt out on MJ, and want to give your medicine a little boost...

    And MAYBE most, (or more likely) a lot of the Cannabinoids are absorbed in moments.
    But if they are ALL gone within a few seconds, how come I can hold in hits for 30-45 seconds...THEN go get my dog high with THOSE hits??

    The longer you hold it in, more you get. Known fact.

    That's stupid to believe otherwise.

    Go smoke a bowl, just inhale 1...2 exhale... See where that gets you...
    THEN an hour later...
    (once those SHITTY effects have probably been gone for a half hour)
    Smoke the same sized bowl. Take the same sized hits, but hold that shit in for at least 10 seconds at a time. AT LEAST. And take another nice breath in NOT OUT, to get the smoke stirred up in your lungs(Just like with ANYTHING the greater surface area that touches the actual lungs, the more THC it will pull out).
     
  9. RooRshack

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    This is retarded.

    3-5 seconds was said. You then go on a rant where you call people stupid and tell them to try exhaling after 2 seconds, or something like this.

    4 seconds, as I recall, was what NORML (I think it was them, not sure, it was SOMEONE'S study) found to be the sweet spot, with nearly all the THC absorbed and reasonably low tar condensation.

    As for why your dog gets high, it's a fucking dog, look at it's brain size relative to yours. Have you never smoked resin? Never done a shotgun? It doesn't have much, but it has some THC in it and will still get you high. Your dog doesn't have your tolerance, it doesn't know how to ACTUALLY smoke weed.

    "the longer you hold it in, more you get. Known fact"-what the fuck did you just say? This is obviously complete bullshit, on any scale that matters. Who knows this fact well enough that you can cite their knowledge, as fact?

    And while you're binding CO to your red blood cells, thus preventing them from carrying O2, seems like a pretty stupid time to be playing games with just how long you can hold your breath. Remember the famous, classic "weed causes brain damage" study? Know how they damaged the monkeys brains? Yeah, smoke inhalation. You don't bind O2 to anywhere near as much blood as you should when you take a breath after a hit, because of all the CO on blood, and so the longer you spend binding more and more CO, the more it's going to compound that problem. Not to mention the fact that by ten seconds the amount you're exhaling is noticably less, meaning it's staying in your lungs and physically damaging them, regardless of O2 exchange taking place.

    Also, recall that CO takes a long time to unbind from blood, and may never for the life of that cell.

    Grow a brain and report back.
     
  10. MeatyMushroom

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    It's not even that much text man... and you might wanna read it so you can save your respiratory system? Actually ignore that last sentence, it doesn't even do much anyway.

    If you wanna get extra high from your bud just get some mild MAOI's(be careful to check that they don't need any dietary restrictions). Heard St. John's Wort is a good one for MJ.
    Or make cakes.
     
  11. FinShaggy

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    I'm not reading his words, way too much talking, from someone that spouts way to much nonsense.

    And I've had asthma my whole life, started smoking weed (With holding it in) been smoking for 5 years, and haven't had ANY respiratory problems, SINCE I started.
    I used to have asthma attacks all the time...

    So listening to that guy isn't going to "Save my respiratory system".
    I bet you believe that 1 joint is = to 6 cigarettes because of there not being a filter?

    The best is Syrian Rue.

    But MAOI's is a terrible idea, as your body will have more of a tolerence against THC whenever you arent on the MAOI's.
    So really you're hurting the effects of marijuana by doing that.



    Everything I said, works in favor of THC.
    And would make it where you could smoke LESS...AND let your tolerence take a small break from MJ.
     
  12. FinShaggy

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    Lol, whatever.
    If you knock out your immune system, and introduce weed to it. As your immune system builds itself back to 100%, it will have a better understanding of how to make weed less effective.
    You're body will have less reaction to weed than before :)
     
  13. eggsprog

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    even if that is true, his comment still applies.
     
  14. RooRshack

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    Inhibiting monoamine oxidase is not the same as knocking out your immune system, by any means. Now, I have never heard of potentiating weed by way of MAOIs, but regardless, you are talking out of your ass. Your body will simply not "fight" weed if you take MAOIs and then don't.
     
  15. FinShaggy

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    To yourself?

    Do you have anything to say, let alone smart to say, about ANYTHING?
    MAOI's literally INHIBIT your MAO receptors. This is KNOCKING OUT PIECE of your immune system.
    I never said it was knocked all the way out, I just said that it had to "Get back to 100%"
     
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    Wind. fans.. strings, sticks. that kinda stuff.. Lower the heat out on the tops which causes stretching and weakness....[​IMG]
     
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