Who Are The One Percent?

Discussion in 'Occupy Movement' started by Aerianne, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. Aerianne

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    What They Do -
    What They Own -
    What They Make -

    Full Article: http://www.munknee.com/2011/11/the-...income-of-1530733-and-more-interesting-facts/

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  2. lillallyloukins

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    that article seems designed to draw attention away from the real 1%... i think the percentage is a lot smaller than 1%... the millionaires probably wouldn't make that category... the "1%" are more likely to be hoarding billions... the swines... bless'em... bollocks... fuck'em... love'em... NOT... they need a damned good hug though... i personally try to feel compassion for them, for they must be bereft of true human warmth... surely they must be cold, arrogant and heartless... sad... aaanyway, yeah, a much smaller percentage... what's your take on the article Aerianne?
     
  3. Aerianne

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    Oh yeah, I'm sure those hoarding those kinds of billions are a smaller percent. I won't say that having money necessarily blackens a heart but it certainly can remove you from the reality that the majority of us face.
     
  4. MikeE

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    Thats a pretty good description of a corporate "person".

    Cold, because they were conceived in a boardroom governed by profit not passion.
    Arrogant, because they achieve their goals.
    Heartless, because they have no body.

    What is most important to us flesh and blood people is that these corporate "people" have a belly that can't be filled. That is where those hoarded billions are.
     
  5. lillallyloukins

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    what i mean is that the 1% is just a slogan... the 1% is actually around 0.001%, possibly even smaller... wouldn't make for a good slogan... even millionaires are going to be feeling the pinch... and i didn't mean that money necessarily blackens a heart... there are some very cool millionaires, who do a lot to actually put back into society... i'm talking the puppet-masters.. the orchestrators...

    at olsx, there was a very drunk woman who turned up one night, and we got talking... very expensive clothes... turned out, her husband is a banker... she was all like "what do we dooooo" "stop paying my taxes?" "my husband would not like it one bit if he found out i'd been here"... "cunty bollocks husband" "what do i doooo?".... as i supported her full weight, and hugged her, i told her that it sounds like she needs to move herself and her husband here right now, because the long and short of it was that they were both extremely fucked up people... she needed loving, which was very obvious as she kept snuggling into me and telling me how lovely i was... bless her, she was a real sweetheart, but very unhappy...

    people like her, and her husband have been just as much victims and brainwashed as we have been.. her husband just happened to have a high salaried job in a bank... i don't see them as the 1%, although, statistically they are in actuality within that category...
     
  6. skip

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    Here's my take on it...

    Until the 1% give 99% of their wealth back to the PEOPLE, the people will rise up and TAKE BACK what was stolen from them. *

    Now you might think that's excessive, but if a person has $100 million, they can afford to give back $99 million, keeping $1 million for themselves. I really doubt anyone "needs" more than that to live.

    * BTW, this should be a new slogan for the Occupy movement.

    As far as I'm concerned, nobody is "entitled" to make $100 million. Don't care who they are.
     
  7. broony

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    Yeah im in the 99% feeling cheated, lied to, and manipulated that has now turned to anger from the awakeing of my self conscious.
     
  8. Blue-Moon*

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    so the 1% are the people with a whole ass-load of money, but aren't doing anything to help others or the economy (or something like that)?
    Trying to understand more of the movement i want to become a part of.
    :peace:
     
  9. Aerianne

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    Another good thread to read here is "What Are The Issues Being Raised By Occupy Movement" http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=437941&f=633
     
  10. Soar

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    I don't mind that people can get as rich as they like. I think it is necessary to spread the power. Otherwise the politicians would have too much power.
    What i do mind is that they are able to buy as much property as they like! It puts the price of property up such that one person can own 20 homes and make money off them without lifting a finger whilst someone else can't afford ONE home to live in! I f the average person wants to own a home they will spend 30 years in a mundane job, paying it off; hence the high suicide rates (well its partly to blame). I think there should be a cap on how much property a person can own and you should not be able to buy property in foreign countries. I think part of the reason why indonesians have attacked australians in bombings is because they hate them for owning the property there and having such advantages over them in wealth and taking their women. Just my opinion; I may be wrong.
     
  11. Soar

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    I can agree with all that. But as for health care; most of the money gets spent on medical treatment for self-inflicted problems. Obesity and smoking account for about 80% of the health budget use in australia (the new world's fattest nation). The people have to take some responsibility for themselves. Politicians did not create these problems. it's people's attitude that they should get by without effort or sacrifice. That was not mother nature's way and it doesn't work now either. A large part of the population would spend whatever money they had on self abuse i believe.
     
  12. lillallyloukins

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    i agree that we all have to take responsibility for ourselves, but it cannot be denied that we have been under attack, so to speak, in our own homes, what with advertising/consumerist culture/economy... people need to understand the full picture before they can be expected to take full responsibility, surely... "Politicians did not create these problems"?... what??? so you reckon they had no part in it at all then? Politicians have no relationship with the corporations that make so much money from our downfall? and, so what if they did spend their money on self-abuse... it is their right to do so, and no one else's to tell them otherwise... self-abuse is a response to a deep sickness that many of us live through, and some not so lucky, don't make it through... a path i have travelled and come through... it is not our job to nanny people, surely?
     
  13. Soar

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    I'm not saying we should nanny ppl, I don't think eating/drinking and drug use should be legal matters. I'm just pointing out that some people would be no better off if they had more wealth. I know people who are on well above average incomes but they still have to go to a church to get food donations for their family because they've spent their money on alcohol or hotting up their car. I think SOME people would spend whatever money they had on material things and self abuse and in the end they'd be no better off no matter how much money they had. People need to think more globally as their own consuming and health affects the whole world to an extent.
    But you're right that self abuse sometimes comes from the result of having lived in such an unfair and impoverished society to begin with (or from having been abused by others).
    I wish there were a cap on wealth and beyond that the multi-millionaires had to give their income to charity. I doubt i'll see that day in my life time though.
    You make a good point in saying that the politicians are bias. It would be nice if we could vote directly on policies more often instead of politicians.
     
  14. 56olddog

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    Except (possibly) the $1.5 million average current income, this seems to place many into the “1%” category who have worked hard, lived within their means, invested wisely (in buying a home and/or other property), and are now, after decades of doing so, are able to enjoy the fruits of their labors and sacrifices.

    As another poster has stated, the “1%” term seems more of a slogan than an absolute. The real “1%” is made up of the obscenely wealthy and is actually a much smaller percentage of American households – if they can even be described as such.

    Unfortunately, many of those obscenely wealthy have been made so by the spending habits of the American people, i.e. “where America shops”. Our continual demand for cheaper products has resulted in the huge impact of foreign goods – the jobs and buying ability of many were lost or (at least) compromised as further result. Other factors were definitely involved, but the overall “price only” mindset appears to have gotten the ball rolling.

    It seems tragically ironic that many who once supported “globalization”, now vilify “outsourcing” as one of the major causes of unemployment – some cite “corporate greed” as leading to the “outsourcing” while ignoring the possibility that profit (which is REQUIRED for any business that even survives) was impossible in the only market available without the use of cheaper foreign labor and products.

    Not in any sense, do I impugn the American worker or the wages paid/benefits provided to him. On the contrary – hardly a day passes when I, in my own business, do not have issue with the difference in domestically produced versus imported product. While most of my clients are working class – many are union members – apparently, few consider the (usually) superior quality of American made goods over the lower price of those imported to be a sound choice.
     
  15. midgardsun

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    I think its more the 0.0000000001% who decide about important things like wars.
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

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    This is very true. In reality, ALL the world's problems in terms of economics, war, poverty, etc. are the result of a handful of people who are many times more rich and more powerful than the vague "1%" people are focusing on.
     
  17. midgardsun

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    yes, most of the 1% are only dumb goy;)
     
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