Heroin XR

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by murgatroid, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. murgatroid

    murgatroid Member

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    Hi, I was wondering if there is a method of H administration that doesn't have the rush users normally crave and instead stretches out the euphoria as long as possible. Would eating it work best? Anyone have any experience with this? If one was after an opiate high that lasted the longest without a rush should he or she avoid H altogether?
     
  2. deleted

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    eating it yes.. youll still get the nod. plugging with be the best. < never tried it, but Ill bet someone else come along and says thats the best.
     
  3. mephist00

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    H sucks orally.. any other route of administration besides IV sucks because you lose most of it due to first pass metabolism.. its a complete waste to snort or swallow it.. Oral Bio-availibility is around 20% - 30%.. meaning your body throws away 80% or 70% of it

    And there is a way to get the longer euphoria.. get a better connection lol.. good H should last an hour or more.. Id do 2 or 3 bags and if I didn't nod for hours, the buzz, or 'EUPHORIA' would last an hour.. and my tolerance was way up there.. good dope is the absolute best opiate buzz there is :p
    shitty H is an absolute waste of money and time.. if u gotta do more then one bag to feel it, the dope sucks
     
  4. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    If you have a low tolerance you can definitely get high off snorting it. And it should last longer for an hour, if it only lasts an hour (assuming you're not a habitual user) you probably got fentanyl.
     
  5. gendorf

    gendorf Senior Member

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    if you eat it your liver will break it down to morphine.
     
  6. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    @OP: Not really. The reason Heroin is special is because when INJECTED, it deacetylates into the opioid 6-MAM in the blood which is incredibly lipid-soluble and which passes into the brain like almost no other opioid.

    If Heroin (ie: Diamorphine) is taken by another means, it won't be deacetylated. If taken orally, for example, it actually is metabolized by liver enzymes, into regular old Morphine. So, you will undoubtedly get high, but it would just be the same as taking oral Morphine.

    The only oral opioids that would be 'extended release' and of the caliber of Diamorphine would be the other 3,6 esters of Morphine such as the Schedule I Nicomorphine. But again, they would need to be taken intravenously for the super euphoria.
     
  7. murgatroid

    murgatroid Member

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    Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll just avoid H altogether since I don't want to bang it. The reason I asked was because my only connect for M charges 20$ for 60mg which seems like a ripoff. I was considering H since it's cheaper and all over the place.
     
  8. ChrisFromScotland

    ChrisFromScotland Lang may yer lum reek

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  9. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    $20 for 60 mg of Morphine isn't terrible. Hell, back in the old, crush-able "OC" OxyContin days, I recall people paying at least $60 for a 60 mg pill. Oxycodone is about 150% the strength of Morphine orally, so 60 mg of Morphine = about 45 mg of Oxycodone, so $20 is still way less than the $45 you could be paying for OxyContin. Illicit opioids tend to be quite expensive if you go the pharmaceutical route. And if you want to stay away from injecting things, then I would just suck it up to pay for the pharms. At least it will hopefully prohibit you from developing an opioid addiction because of the cost. I hope.
     
  10. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    Especially if you get tar, which often has small amounts of 6MAM in it from incomplete rxn between the morphine and acetic anhydride. it also likely will have small amounts of other opiate alkaloids like plain ol morphine and codeine.
     
  11. murgatroid

    murgatroid Member

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    Guess that puts it into perspective somewhat. I was also peeved because the previous time I went dealer said 10 a pill (when I was buying something else) so I thought he was gyping me. Corner the market, raise the price! :(

    So which common opiates last the longest? I've only eaten percs and codeine and I have to say even though codeine is a noobie opiate I can feel it for hours and have some kind of happy cozy afterglow feeling a full 10-12 hours later. Maybe my body is sensitive, for now at least.
     
  12. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    The only time I ever ate it - was when the cops pulled me over, and I had to chew up 2 bags and swallow before they got to the car - - waste - but > but not arrested
     
  13. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    The common opioids all last not very long if you have the Immediate Release versions. So Percocet (Oxycodone + Tylenol), Vicodin/Lortab/Norco (Hydrocodone + Tylenol), Roxicodone (Oxycodone by itself), Morphine Sulfate (Morphine Immediate Release), Fentanyl Actiq/Fentora (Fentanyl lollipop and lozenge), all last between 2.5 and 5 hours. The only normal opioid that lasts longer is Methadone, which lasts about 12 hours. But that is probably hard to come by on the streets since most Methadone Patients are only getting the bare minimum to scrape by anyways and won't sell theirs.

    Your other option is to look into buying Extended Release pills. You would be looking for OxyContin (Oxycodone extended release), MS Contin/Kadian/Avinza (all Morphine Sulfate extended release), or HydroMorphContin (Hydromorphone Continous release), which would all last around 7-10 hours. HOWEVER, you need to be EXTREMELY careful in dosing such products since they come in very high doses that could KILL someone like you with no opioid tolerance if somehow the tablets got crushed or broken (letting 8 hours worth of the drug hit you in 3 hours). I would advise MS Contin at a dose of perhaps 30 mg to start with. It won't be as expensive as OxyContin and it is relatively weak taken orally, so the risk of overdose is smaller (at 30 mg that is).
     
  14. murgatroid

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    That sounds like it would be wonderful. 7-10 hours of bliss. :sunny:
    For now I can only get my hands on generic M so that'll have to do.
     
  15. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Extended release heroin is, in practice, called oxyContin.

    Also, eating heroin converts it back to morphine in your stomach, I think. So you get half the bang for your buck.
     
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