Leonard Cohen

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  1. anoldsmoothie

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    I found this guy Cohen late in life. I was drawn to his work because I respect that he only sings what he writes and considers himself a poet before a songster.

    He's gotten up there in age and is only performing minimally. His presence is abundant on YouTube, so when you search for him you get a lot of playlists and other related postings in the right margin. many of the cuts have been monetized, I think with his OK.

    Some folks think of him as Europe's (+Canada) Dylan. I dig Cohen even more because I can't understand Dylan anymore.

    To get a flavor re Cohen (if you already don't know of his works), try this one called Chealsea Hotel that is prelogued by an interview on the matter that he wrote the song after a hook-up with janis Joplin in the Chelsea in NYC. Halfway thru he sings the song he wrote. A few racey lyrics and brutal poetic license re the relationship.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cp_4r2kUPM&feature=related

    link to "R" lyrics:

    http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/leonardcohenimyourman/chelseahotelno2.htm
     
  2. Duck

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    No way, was just listening to 'Waiting for the Miracle'.

    I don't know him well at all, I'm said to say. Except that he wrote Hallelujah (which was so wonderfully covered by Rufus Wainwright) and less than a handful of songs from soundtracks. I want to get more into him so bad.

    He makes me think of a cross between Bob Dylan and Tom Waits.

    What should I check out first?

    It doesn't have to be "starter level", love blues, like folk love experimenting.
     
  3. anoldsmoothie

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    Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

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    • this song means something different to everyone who sings it and hears it, truly a masterful song



    Hallelujah in Shrek movie (with mature lyrics sanitized):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llYUEmok2lA&feature=related

    Gotta watch this one when the middle school kids ask if they can sing it at the Spring recital.

    "Hallelujah"

    I've heard there was a secret chord
    That David played, and it pleased the Lord
    But you don't really care for music, do you?
    It goes like this
    The fourth, the fifth
    The minor fall, the major lift
    The baffled king composing Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    Your faith was strong but you needed proof
    You saw her bathing on the roof
    Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you
    She tied you to a kitchen chair
    She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
    And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    Baby I have been here before
    I know this room, I've walked this floor
    I used to live alone before I knew you.
    I've seen your flag on the marble arch
    Love is not a victory march
    It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    There was a time when you let me know
    What's really going on below
    But now you never show it to me, do you?
    And remember when I moved in you
    The holy dove was moving too
    And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    Maybe there’s a God above
    But all I’ve ever learned from love
    Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
    It’s not a cry you can hear at night
    It’s not somebody who has seen the light
    It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    You say I took the name in vain
    I don't even know the name
    But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
    There's a blaze of light in every word
    It doesn't matter which you heard
    The holy or the broken Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah

    I did my best, it wasn't much
    I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
    I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
    And even though it all went wrong
    I'll stand before the Lord of Song
    With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah
     
  4. anoldsmoothie

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    Duck: just click in on the Chealsea Hotel YT and check out the right margin for other stuff.

    On of my favs is his Tower of Song that gets into the pecking order of the songster racket. At concerts, sometimes he'll just read select song lyrics and skip the music. Here it is:

    Tower of Song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYJf4J7VBaY

    "I ache in the places I used to play." - that's me, alright.

    "They don't let a woman kill you in the tower of song."
     
  5. anoldsmoothie

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    From L. Cohen's web page of poems:

    http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/poem.html#onlytourist

    The only tourist in Havana turns his thoughts homeward from "Flowers for Hitler"


    Come, my brothers,
    let us govern Canada,
    let us find our serious heads,
    let us dump asbestos on the White House,
    let us make the French talk English,
    not only here but everywhere,
    let us torture the Senate individually
    until they confess,
    let us purge the New Party,
    let us encourage the dark races
    so they'll be lenient
    when they take over,
    let us make the CBC talk English,
    let us all lean in one direction
    and float down
    to the coast of Florida,
    let us have tourism,
    let us flirt with the enemy,
    let us smelt pig-iron in our back yards,
    let us sell snow
    to under-developed nations,
    (It is true one of our national leaders
    was a Roman Catholic?)
    let us terrorize Alaska,
    let us unite
    Church and State,
    let us not take it lying down,
    let us have two Governor Generals
    at the same time,
    let us have another official language,
    let us determine what it will be,
    let us give a Canada Council Fellowship
    to the most original suggestion,
    let us teach sex in the home
    to parents,
    let us threaten to join the U.S.A.
    and pull out at the last moment,
    my brothers, come,
    our serious heads are waiting for us somewhere
    like Gladstone bags abandoned
    after a coup d'état,
    let us put them on very quickly,
    let us maintain a stony silence
    on the St. Lawrence Seaway. Havana
    April 1961
     
  7. anoldsmoothie

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    Cohen is over 75 yrs. old and not going so strongly on the concert circuit. He is still active writing and making limited appearances. He is very up to date in his old age, with a Facebook fan club page @

    http://www.************/home.php#!/leonardcohen

    Here's a documentary they did while he was emerging in Canada during his early life as a poet/performer. I'm going to put it all on one post. The segments are about 15 min. each. He's older than Dylan and was probably crowded-out of the USA market because he was both ahead of the game re bohemian posture, late musical rendition of his works and just a general aversion to anything not American during the '60's.

    So, working out of Montreal, he played well in Canada and Europe where he's almost revered as a poet laureate for the tumultuos 20th.

    This is a playlist splicing 5 Parts of the documentary posted on Youtube. You can watch it on part at a time by going over to the right margin were they usually show up in numeric order. Each part is about 10 minutes:

    Here's the playlist link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_p-RrAULfE&list=PLE1C0E4443BC9E29B

    Hope you enjoy. Test next monday at 11:00PM.
     
  8. anoldsmoothie

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    It seems everyone is rushing to give Cohen awards in his later years. I hope it's not only because of that, but because they finally have recognized he truly is a legend in his time without the benefit of immense success in the U.S.A.

    Here's a few of his award ceremony speeches, starting with the most prestigious, the Prince Of Asturias Award.

    Leonard Cohen's Prince Of Asturias Speech:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIR5ps8usuo

    Leonard Cohen Saluted at Grammy Awards, Jan 31, 2010 (x4):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHSfAUJ_TUE&feature=related

    LEONARD COHEN GIVES MOVING HALLELUJAH FOR SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfpsXUGT36A

    Leonard Cohen's Induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IuCKfA0PM


    Enjoy.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hiEXwyto4k&feature=autoplay&list=FLFKOz7YfYIWaSUxTA3f_4aw&lf=plpp_play_all&playnext=5"]Leonard Cohen - Here it is - YouTube
    this one my favorites...
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Leonard Cohen is a man of great talent. I love that fucking Jew.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUrPzqVadNQ"]Leonard Cohen - Seems so long ago, Nancy - YouTube
     
  12. anoldsmoothie

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    Thanks, orison. I overlooked this one.

    After watching LC's early video biography I understand more of why he's the way he is and why he got started late with putting his poetry to music.

    As I get on with life, his messages not only appeal to me, begad, I've lived them. I can't tell you the number of chords he strikes when it come to my puzzlement with "relationships," and inane authority.

    I got this sneaky suspicion he's going to go down in literature somewhere on the order of E.E. Cummings:

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