Zombie Matter Ultra - what a mind fuck -bad trip

Posting for a friend.
This guy is experienced partier with very high tolerance for drugs. I have seen him do mushrooms and enjoy jet skiing. He just came back from Amsterdam and had a great time there. He has a strong and firmly rooted personality. We just can’t believe this stuff was bought from a local smoke shop, sold to him by a kid. What the fuck!? Is this a one off experience or are all synthetic cannabinoids this potent? We are still freaking out, looking for answers.

 

Yikes. I've tried shrooms, salvia and mescaline cactus but found that a bad cannabis trip is far worse than any other kind. I don't like cannabis enough to really fuck with the synthetic versions, but my friends do. Glad your friend is ok

 

From my research the effects were almost identical to 5-MeO-DMT....

 

Synthetic cannabinoids are no joke. They can cause full blown delusions and hallucinations, total PCP-like freak outs if you dose too high. Give them and your brain respect, don't try and be macho man with drugs mister i jet sky on mushrooms . . .yeah right, maybe half a gram.

 

i smoked that stuff with a few of my buddies, one of them left ater he took 2 bong tokes, later that day we saw him on the ground laying in puke, blacked out completely. the ambulance came and took him away. another one of my friends tried to kill himself. i jump off a ledge (only about 4 1/2 feet tall) and faceplanted and just layed there. the other friend just sat, dident talk, blink, nothing. i dident have a high like the rest and i took 3 bong tokes as all the others took 2. i just felt like my body was trying to get outside of its self and i felt realllyyyyyyyyy baked. i had a good time, just next time when i do it, im only gonna take like 1 or 2 hits. thats stuff FUCKS you up.

 

I had a similar experience with Zombie Matter. After one hit, I began tripping badly within SECONDS. Like BAAAD. I was tripping I was in hell, ad the most terrifying evil shit imaginable. Then things started rapidly declining, and I slid off the couch into my boyfriends floor. I laid in the floor in the fetal position for 2 hours completely unresponsive. I couldn't speak or move but was still somewhat aware of what was happening. I began foaming at the mouth and could not breathe at all. I was lying in the floor with my eyes fixed open and I could see my hands and feet from the position I was in. As I struggled to try to breathe, I watched my fingers and toes turn blue from lack of oxygen. I made several attempts to nudge my boyfriend and tell him I needed help but I was unable to move and he was out of it too. He finally came to and saw that I was completely white and my lips were turning blue, and he began CPR when I finally lost consciousness.* Thank God he regained awareness in time, and is a nurse, because I literally felt myself dying and could see my fingers and toes turning blue as I gave up fighting it. This is Definitely not simply panic attacks. This stuff is bad news and I am very surprised there haven't been more reported deaths from this stuff. Please beware!!r

 

I had to finally create an account here because of the amazing account submitted by the OP, truely captures what it's like to smoke way too much of a synthetic cannabinoid and "trip out", similar to having a really bad trip, and being on too many benzos i. e. memory becomes "transparent" and you can only live, or sort of observe, in the moment.

I want to mention a few VERY potent blends I've come across so if anyone else here does as well, they know what they're getting into.

-Bonzai: One of the strongest highs I've come across, almost completely certain it's JWH-018. Very trippy/almost instant peak. Enjoyable if doseage is right but overall too "tweaky" for me. Duration: 1-3 hours

-C9 Insta Kill" A bit stronger than Bonzai, and feels VERY similar to a mix of pot, DXM, and a strange other feeling I can't describe. VERY fun and entertaining when the dose is right as your sensory perception is GREATLY magnified. No idea what chem it is. Duration: 1-4 hours (occasional "afterglow")

Maya: HOLY F$#@. This is the big boy (that I've come across) of all synthetic cannabinoid smoking blends. Me and my buddies smoked half a pinky nail each (relatively small and safe for a first dose) and didn't initially feel anything. 5 minutes later, BOOM, peaking. The peak (not exaggerating, we kept track on paper with a cell phone's clock) lasted 4-5 hours, the high not completely wearing off until about 12 hours after inhalation.
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS BLEND! It's a VERY intense high with no comedown in sight during it, so smoking too much is VERY bad and extrememly uncomfortable, devote your day to it if you smoke it (i.e. no responsibilities the rest of the day) because it is slightly trippy too and makes coherent sentences very difficult. Leaves you exhausted after, but once every few months I still revisit this blend for a good day of being blitzed from one hit

I hope I didn't jack the thread, but the OP reminded me just how shitty synthetic cannabinoid "OD's" are and I wanted to spread some good info.

 

Well, its NOTHING like 5-meo-dmt but here is the problem. There are several synthetic cannabinoids and they vary in potency. Some of them are 30 to 100 times more potent than THC and some of them are 200 to 400 times more potent than THC. You can't exactly trust these chemical supply companies to properly label their shit because they're already operating illegally under the drug analogue act in the USA by sending things to our country. SO, you may not know which one you have. If you're smoking the blends they sale in head shops and shit, you definitely don't know which you're using because they don't label the bags. This is because they aren't for human consumption, safe huh?

So then you also don't know the potency and you're dealing with a chemical that is active in amounts smaller than a milligram. No wonder its so easy to overdo it, right?

These synthetic cannabinoids are a disgrace to marijuana and only prove how safe smoking Cannabis really is. Its definitely much safer than these synthetics...

 

my boyfriend and i have been smoking zombie matter for about 2 weeks now, and it is a pretty good high. It's a fast and pretty intense high. I'm a heavy pot smoker, but he isn't exactly allowed to smoke it at the moment, so we switched. We have this tiny bowl shaped like a bong, about 6 inches tall, and thats what we use to smoke it. Very tiny hits. A gram lasts us about 3 days, as opposed to a gram of pot which only lasted like a night. So until i post something saying im in the hospital, or worse, just wanted to say its not all bad as long as you dont over due it. Like a few other people have said. But it is truly not the same as weed. i cant wait to be able to switch back

 

Wow.

You need to seriously learn some harm reduction practices. Start small, work your way up... It's common sense when trying a new substance and not knowing how your body will react. You can always smoke more if you don't get high on the first wack; but you can't undo it when you're on the floor OD'ing.

And keep better company.. if one of my friends fell to the floor and started turning blue and struggling to breath I would definitely take them to the hospital (or call 911 if I couldn't), I don't care how fucked up I am at the time...


If your boyfriend is really a nurse, he should have handled several aspects of that situation differently with consideration for your health and safety.

Be safe folks