I think a lot of people don't know what the social aspect of aspergers is. people with aspergers usually are oblivious to people socially. People with Asperger's will appear in their own little world and will often look like they are day dreaming. unmindful, unaware, unconscious. so a person with asperger's either keeps it real and is themselves and appears oblivious or they are a actor. and if they are a actor then they appear as fake to other people. so they might as well keep it real. and do keep in mind there are a lot of people who DO NOT have aspergers who have actor personalities as well. so I am still somewhat suspicious of people with aspergers who claim they try to copy other people to fit in and I think they have some sort of other mental illness but not aspergers. generally a person with aspergers will find that stupid and find themselves to be to smart for that. they usually would prefer to be in their own little world in their mind than wasting their brain trying to act certain way. People with aspergers could care less about trying to fit in socially. people with aspergers prefer to touch into their imagination and creativity that they have rather than be associated with people socially. and their brains don't work normally like other peoples anyway so they can't connect with people socially anyway. a true asperger is someone that is in their head deep deep into their imagination and far from trying to connect socially but can be extremely talkative if it is a subject of their interest. A true asperger is not good at normal conversations but is very good at deep anaylsis!!!!!! that is why people with asperger are generally very intelligent and are inventors and stuff. people with aspergers are masters of anaylsis. people with aspergers are often misunderstood and taken the wrong way also. often when someone has aspergers it is not that obvious either. people are not just gonna know someone has aspergers. and also there are a lot of people who claim to have aspergers but just think they have it. and I think sometimes people with anxiety and social problems automatically think oh I have aspergers. or just cus someone feels different from society they feel like they have aspergers. aspergers is very very complex. the social aspect of aspergers is just 1 part of it. I have aspergers. and I have had it since childhood. there is much more I could write but nah no need. just remember you are born with asperger's it is not something that comes on. and it is far more complex than just the social aspects of it. so yeah I think people who claim they have aspergers and claim to mirror other people really DO NOT have aspergers but that they have some other type of mental illness. A true person with asperger is stuck in their brain and their mental creativity and maybe can look like they are staring at the wall or something a lot. a person with aspergers will look zoned out all the time like they are somewhere else. but again just cus someone is quiet, stares at the wall, looks to be in la la land u can't assume its aspergers. u never know unless you are in someones head. cus every human can day dream and look like that.
I can tell if people are angry or sad or whatever if it is obvious like someone yelling for being mad or someone crying for being sad but I don't try to read people or look directly at them and pre assume how they are feeling. I just assume I have no idea how that persons feels unless they tell me or yell or cry or physically show their emotions. Also I just don't care to try to fit in or whatever. I just relax look around at the trees or whatever and chill. I can talk to people but when meeting new crowds of people most of the time people think I am a quiet guy but I can get into some pretty interesting conversations if someone actually tries to talk to me and does not pre assume stuff about me or judge me. When socializing I don't know how to make proper eye contact or facial expression. most of the time I just look around at the trees and the ground and the sky and some people trip and wonder why when I talk to them I don't look them straight in the eye. but whatever. I don't go around and even tell people I got aspergers. I am diagnosed with it from a doctor. but yeah other than family members no one knows I have it. so if people ever wonder why I am how I am whatever they can think what they want. I think its stupid going around telling everyone you have aspergers. I think it is something that should be private. Edit: I added this post cus I think it helps with the understand of aspergers.
No offence, but wouldn't self medicating with weed make the symptoms of your condition worse? Or does the "social" aspect of MJ make it easier for you..... Just wondering, no judgement, man.
to be honest I do not recommend marijuana for anybody that has any sort of mental illness. I started smoking weed at age 16. I have really good long term memory and I can remember all my childhood and years before I smoked. but I can say for a while I think marijuana actually made me socialize normally but that only lasted for 2 years. I will link the thread where I wrote what happened to me regarding marijuana. edit: here is the link regarding what happened to me with weed smoking. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=440809&f=44 weed introduced new problems for me. Also I have OCD along with aspergers but unlike aspergers I did not always have OCD. OCD came suddenly and I only got OCD after my smoking years. so maybe weed caused me to get OCD or maybe drama that happened in life i have no idea. I also have done aderall a couple of times speed to get high and also have done MDMA a couple of times and that is it for drug abuse. I made my orginal post mostly regarding my aspergers before I did drugs so I did not confuse drug abuse symptoms with asperger symptoms. Everyone has their own path though and everyone knows their own mind and it is up to them to decide whether they wanna smoke weed or do drugs. Just every person must remember that doing drugs does change and alter the brain and even if you quit your mental understanding and brain processing has been changed and whether you consider that harmful or not is up to you. back to talking about my 2 years of smoking though it was weird. I was super social normal went parties talked to women with confidence. had lots of friends. it was almost as if I was cured of aspergers by smoking weed. it really did change me a lot. but it was only temporary. I learned a lot during those 2 years and got a understanding of lots of stuff but it was a trade off cus now I for sure have new problems to face.
its crazy how much weed can alter the brain haha at least in my case. but it changed a lot of certain abilities I had before I started smoking. even though it helped me socialize and stuff it changed my ability to naturally relax at least for me. before I smoked i was a lot more chill and my mind and creative thoughts flowed a lot easier. I am saying this because I don't want someone with aspergers who does not smoke weed read this and think oh it will help me socialize and think weed is some sort of cure. a lot of this is hard to explain in words but I tell anyone with aspergers its better to not smoke than it is to smoke. I wish I never did abuse drugs and still was my old self with my old mind but whatever it is what it is. and yes I consider weed a drug. I only did other drugs a couple like speed like 6 or 7 times and mdma 3 times and that is it. so yeah smoking weed changed a lot how my creativity in aspergers works. I feel stoned a lot of the time but glad I am still young and have not stoned my mind farther.
It may have been different if you had approached the plant with respect from the very start........ Yeah, try to explain that to a kid, "it's a tool not a toy". But seriously, things may have been much different for you. Seems you got straight with it now at least..... Thanks for the insight!
yeah you are right things probably would have been better. I wish I never turned into a stoner and smoked as much as I did haha. now I only smoke for bad headaches/stomach aches which is like 5 or 6 a year. and I also smoke for fun about 12-15 times a year. and now it is super fun because the full psychedelic effects are back. as far as thing turning out better though I still have aspergers weed did not cure me as it only helps when I am high. and since I can't smoke all the time I still have my aspergers. but as far as the OCD and other mental disorders yes I believe if I did respect the plant from the beggining all those other added on mental disorders would not have happened. I still remember everything I learned socially during my party years but if I am not high i still have bad social skills and still am bad with eye contact and facial expression and all of that. but I never lost my confidence. I am still a very confident guy and for sure before I smoked weed and partied I did not have a high social confidence. but I won't forget my stoner times it was like If I smoke everyday and stay high all day everyday I will have a good time. but every time I smoke I dig the hole deeper and once I quit smoking its time to climb out of that hole. and then once I face the world sober again all those hazy days spent leave me all messed up when trying to come back to reality haha. weed is for sure interesting a tool and opened my mind. there is for sure plenty of interesting positive stuff I learned from weed.
Life with aspergers means knowing you will never improve to a reasonable level. No matter how hard you work, you are physically unable to ever reach the level of a "normal" person. The harder you try the more the fact that you will never be able to be an equal contributer to social situations or be looked upon as an equal by your peers is thrust in your face. It'll never happen. I've learned to stop trying and smoke weed, drink, or do whatever else I can get my hands on that will make me forget about it all. I plan to die a drug addled mess at 35 with no friends or family. Fuck this hideous disorder.
As others better than I have stated, it's not a disorder, it's another way of thinking and functioning. After all, don't many of us consider the normal functioning of society to be a disorder? There's a lot to learn there.
what? plenty of people with aspergers have improved over time. I have seen even full blown autistic people become somewhat normal and improve over time. Actually there are some people with autism who can even be managers of a whole entire store and run the store just fine.
It is a difficult thing for "normal" people to understand. They can just figure out allot of social things we can not. It is so easy for them, so obvious, they think we must be fucking with them when we do not. The result of this is often isloation. That seems to bother some people more then others. But in my opinion the cost of sanity is isolation. It is just about finding people that put up with your oddness. What allot of people never see is the fact that we are very loyal friends if given the chance. The best thing you can do is just be yourself.
for me the only real relief i have ever found was the one person that could understand me somewhat... my ASD fiance... we are lucky we found each other. also on the pot as meds thing... cannabis works wonderfully... in the right doses... but if you are smoking it it is all to easy to over medicate... you are much better off using measured doses in food (lasts longer that way too) and you get much less of the "brain fog" that you get when smoking it, when you eat it (i think it has to do with the time release mechanisms). my personal area of obsession is psychology... and the different drugs / therapies that have an effect on the functionality of the mind. cannabis has been shown to have a statistically significant positive effect on people with autism but as you all know... each autistic is an individual... and the doses and drugs used as medication are different for each (depending on the extent of the condition). now... onto a totally different topic... though related... language difficulties? im being forced to take a foreign language class for my psych degree... and im having a horrible time dealing with the stress of being in such an... interactive... class. what if anything have you all found (other then flash cards) that really help you with learning language? and what if anything have you found to help you cope with rooms full of people talking at once (15 people roughly) i have a tutor and i am working with my dss office... but other then flash cards and a white board that i use... i am completely clueless (missed out on all the early intervention thx to my iq making people think i "couldnt be autistic")
there are different degrees of aspergers..just like all other "disorders"..<<geeze I hate that word I think its kind of rude to generalize (original post)..but i guess youre just posting based on your own experience with whatever degree of aspergers you have
