Whats happend to people??

It's called planned obsolescence. It's good for making money in the short term, and that's about it. Someday, maybe very soon, it's going to get very expensive to extract the oil we have left. All these disposable appliances, plastic disposable gadgets, pretty 90 percent of the crap you'll find at any big box store that's designed to last 1 year and then you throw it away and go buy another - Somebody is going to be digging through landfills for it, because it's going to be worth it's weight in gold. We'll be paying dearly for old microwaves that have been "refurbished" after being buried beneath 3 feet of garbage for a decade. On a completely - well somewhat unrelated - note: it infuriates me that a lot software coming out now can only be activated online. I bought a dell about 8 years ago - I've never been online with it - I use it for graphic design and as a digital recording studio (using older software, of course, that didn't require online activation). The computer as good as the day I first set it up. My brother bought the same computer at about the same time - he used it almost exclusively for internet access and it lasted him about 3 years, the third year he had nothing but problems with it. He's not ignorant about anti-virus and spyware, but he is religious about installing updates. Planned obsolesence.

 

The OP seemed to be making somewhat of an anti-consumerist plea: don't throw your stuff in the trash and rush out and get the latest, greatest "improved" stuff because the new stuff is often actually worse than the old stuff you already have.

 

Thats exactly what im saying!!!!!

MOST OLDER STUFF IS BETTER QUALITY,ETC........

 

Will we?

Or will we just stop trying to cook with radiation, and go back to doing it with good old traditional old-fashioned heat?

 

150 years ago,people had horses,horse gear,guns,clothing,sometimes a home,sometimes they farmed, kids that helped from sun-up to sun-down, sometimes they just drifted around,sometimes they worked for others. There was liquor,opium,dancing,picnic get togethers,church functions and gun fights for entertainment and settling arguments. Pretty simple entertainment for a pretty simple time. Not many gadgets to speak of. Now, some people started to realize that a great number of people would like to have gadgets--cars--radios--tractors-refrigerators--indoor plumbing-- implements for farming--better and fancier weapons--and later TV----computers--and now all those little gadgets I see people fooling with all the time."They" just keep 'em coming and going. Especially going. Fancier and fancier gadgets. And "they" found that we could be persuaded subtly or overtly,that we needed and had to have the latest "thing" that was/is produced and that to have something "old" or "outdated" was to be beneath those of us that had "the latest thing". What "they" discovered about us has been extremely lucrative for the producers of such gadgets and the end is not in sight. So that's the way it is and that manufactured desire and a price on everything is what keeps this society humming along. Oh,there are/have been ups and downs along the way--but as long we are subject to the mindset that continual acquisition of the latest gizmos is a good thing and is necessary--this society and the example it has shown the world(they've caught on quickly) will eventually make ALL gizmos moot. But RIGHT NOW--our constant insatiable maufactured desire for all things new is the most important thing manifested. And "they" love it. Evidently,so do we. So it goes.

 

It won't let me rep you for that, Scratcho, because I need to spread it around but it won't let me spread it around because I've given too much ... but consider yourself repped anyway.

 

Thank you.

 

Quite deep, I agree and it makes me sad.

 

I dislike the despicable word-consumers. "Those who consume" is what we have become to the pushers. Consumption will eventually lead to the chaos that I believe will come. . I predict water will become the most expensive and fought over commodity on earth. Fortunately -by then ,I'll be as dead as the proverbial door nail.

 

You can't compare music CDs with tapes, that's like saying you don't need a printer if you can write on rocks. It's better in many ways and also old TVs are proven to have much worse impact on your eyes. I agree with some of what has been said tho, but that's mostly esthetic as poeple tend to have wierd sense of what is art today and the way they decorate their homes is riddiculous sometimes.

 

Ah, but Heart of Europe, that's just where you're wrong - because you CAN compare tapes with CDs.

You see, a digital signal will ALWAYS be an angular, stepped wave; whereas an analogue signal is a smoth continuous wave.

And the human ear CAN hear the difference.

So sure, you don't get the background noise on a digital signal - but it JUST DON'T SOUND RIGHT.

 

I disgaree..... OLD TVS (crts) ARE MUCH BETTER!! (Picture quality,etc) and always have been and will be!

 

Yes, human ear can hear the difference, but that's just hypothetical, tell me if you can really tell that TODAY'S record is analogue or digital just by ear. I'm sorry, no offense, but you can't (I mean you can, but you may be surprised what the record really is). Mostly because all of the analogue records just HAD to be digital during the recording, at least once. But you see, with analogue recording you don't have much space to work with, and also digital recording is much more accesable than analogue. And still the mastering process can make it sound alot better, first of all, you can do almost anything with digital record, because analogue record is "physical" and digital is... well digital.

Digital record lets you "make a room" for every single hertz in the record, you can cut every sound's frequency so accurate that the sound is PERFECT for human ear (because we now know how human ear responses on the whole scale).

Also the quantization noise is created by analogue -> digital conversion and it's today it's actually avoidable.

I'm not saying the picture is worse, I'm saying that your eyes suffer more.

 

Technologically speaking, HOE, you're absolutely right.

And I daresay that you're right, too, about all recently cut analogues having been digitised at some point.

BUT ... the records that were cut in the 60s and 70s weren't. And the sound quality of the complex sound waves - of reeds, brass and the human voice - is dulled by the digital process. It may only be at the margins of perception for many people. But it is definitely there.

 

Consumption used to be what people died from back in the 1800's early 1900's..... quite fitting a term actually.


Anyways, as a disease, Consumption was usually another name for Tuberculosis, but was also used for any "wasting away" type of long term illness.... again, quite fitting for the topic at hand.

 

Good one. I think the term consumption went out with the term "the vapors".

 

consumers

 

we are members of a throw away society.. everything is built to be replaced rather than fixing it.

 

I have seen These flat screen things.... THE PICTURE IS FLAT,IT LOOKS DISGUSTING!!!! (Same with DVD's)

I prefer analogue and on a CRT anyday over this newer digital garbage!!

 

If I had a 50-year-old toaster, you bet your balls it would still work. Too bad I'm stuck with this one made last year that will shit out in 2 weeks.