Am I descending or rising?

This is a story about how a "Good kid" is becoming a casual drug user. It's story, followed by some questions.

The good kid, in this story is me, and all my life I was the goody-two-shoes, that refused and denied any sort of inebriation, though I feel as if this may have helped me avoid any sort of physical addictions. It's happening slowly, though I know it's happening. I didn't smoke until my Seventeenth birthday, when a friend of mine offered one, half-joking. I had turned down cigarettes every single time they were offered, until now. I didn't love smoking, until I got my hands on some Clove cigarettes. Yum.

I didn't even drink alcohol, until shortly after I turned Eighteen. I drink infrequently now, though I only do so in shots (I find the taste intolerable.) Our chronicle now takes us to my Seventeenth birthday, wherein I simply shrug, and walk up to my pothead friend, pull him to his car, and smoke with him, from a bong.

Being high for the first time was interesting, we sat out front of a comic shop, smoking cigarettes. I remember being almost mesmerized by the red glow that the neon sign cast over everything. Another friend of mine then broke out the very annoying mind-game, where he pesters me until my arm starts "floating" involuntarily. I didn't find it nearly as entertaining as him, not because it worked, but because I knew exactly how it worked. Still, the night was a great deal of fun.

A month or so later, my brother brought a couple boxes of coricidin knockoff. Same ingredients, in the same recipe, just cheaper. Oh man, was it surreal. I could barely walk without looking at my feet, my head felt heavier than my body, all sorts of weird head/body feelings. Not psychedelic by a long shot, but I was getting there. I remember him taking me for "a walk." The walk consisted of going outside to let me throw up. I threw up in quick succession three times, projectile style. I crab-walked in the grass, to avoid my vomit. After throwing up, I just lied on my back, well clear of puke and mumbled "That actually wasn't too unpleasant." The rest of the high was pretty nice, regardless. I've only done DXM three times since then, because I'm aware of the physical dependency that's possible.

And now our tale brings us to the newest chapter, the one still evolving. My brother's always told me stories of when he was tripping balls on acid and ''shrooms. He's unfortunately lost contact with the sorts of people one needs to know to do such things, so he can't find either substance. So I went around to the people I knew, that do drugs, but none of them could find acid or 'shrooms. 'Shrooms were always out of season, and people either didn't want to fuck with Acid, or it was completely unobtainable where I lived. It seemed as though my run had come to an end.

That was until I learned of how completely piss-easy mushrooms are to grow, if one has the materials, and some sort of brain capacity. So now I look forward, to the days to come when I start my own grow. I know that I have no experience, so my yield will probably be poor, but I'll have something. Tomorrow I'll be putting in my order for spores, so I have two questions for everyone.

A) What strain of 'shrooms do you recommend I grow.
B) Is my life going down or uphill from here?

 

A) I'm looking at getting some Golden Teachers, doesn't matter too much but go for any kind of Psilocybe Cubensis. Apparently they're more forgiving for the first time grower. Penis Envy look funnier than the rest though - and they're a cube!


B) Can't say for sure, but I was pretty much the same. Never touched a cig or anything 'til college, then decided to get stoned one day and I went from there. So far, taking psychedelics was probably one of the best decisions I've made in my life because now I'm actually becoming me, not what someone else wants me to be.
The shrooms will most probably give you a slightly different view on things, which I think is good, but it depends what kind of person you are and how open you are to changes.

Just know as much about anything you're going to be taking before you take it, and don't overuse any sort of drug.

 

I've always been open-minded nd laid back, I just always told myself that It just "wasn't y thing." Really, though, it's because my family has notoriously additive personalities. I supposed I just waited until I was old enough, and smart enough to resist addiction.
The funny thing is, with shrooms, I've never actually had them. I'm going to grow them, just to TRY them. I do love the idea of growing things, so I'll probably grow mushrooms fr a while, even if I'm not eating them.

 

Just as long as you keep your drug use under control and it doesn't negatively affect your ability to go to school/work. Basically don't become someone that has to do drugs everyday or does drugs whenever they have a free moment. I had friends like that (toke up every morning and spend their entire weekends fucked up on acid/shrooms/X laying on the couch) and they are still washing dishes or delivering pizzas. Most have nothing in their lives of value other than their next bag of mushrooms or acid.

I never touched a drug in my life until I tried my own home grown mushrooms. The idea got into my head when I was in college and working with a old hippie that was telling me how he and his friends grew some in the past. I thought it sounded like a interesting intellectual pursuit and I wanted to see if I could grow them. And then I picked my first flush and was like..... now what? So I did them for the first time and my world was blown. In the beginning I did them maybe once a month but as I got busier with life and work I do them less and less until I can only find time once every few months..... but I savor them and I have always had a closet grow going for the last decade.


As for what strain to grow just find a good spore vendor... I recommend ralphster or sporeworks and order whatever cube they are having a sale for that particular day. Ralphster often has two for one deals. My favorite cubes are Hawaiians and Amazonians though.

Once you get your first flush make as many prints as you can and you can trade them to other growers for different strains. I haven't bought spores in a decade and have grown just about every strain and species of magic mushroom.

 

The presence of psychedelics in your life does not determine whether you are rising or descending, you do. I've seen them work towards both ends for people.

 

Thanks for that. I'm not entirely concerned which way I go, and as Grainpsilo said, I'll just keep it under control. For me, I tend to binge with things. Like I'll have a weekend once in a while where I just go nuts with friends. My motto is that I'd rather be really fucked up, once in a while, than fucked up all the time.
Anyway, I might hold off for a few more days while I gather materials for my grow. I've gotten a list of shit that I need, and just need to go out and grab it.

I read somewhere, about taking the innoculated jamjar, and spreading it into a brownie pan, to make one large cake, but I forgot to bookmark it, and so it's lost to the internet. Does anyone know the method I'm thinking of?

 

This.

I would say, OP, that you're descending. You seem to have shamefully pathetic knowledge of the drugs you take, as evidenced by taking CCC's, and only being concerned with the effects of the DXM...... You smoke and drink, and these are not tools of ascension, rather of slow, painful death, especially when combined with ignorant impulsive decisions to take drugs you sort of know about.

Your attitude about mushrooms doesn't seem to be very respectful or...... intelligent, either.

And people don't want to "fuck with acid", but have mushrooms? You're dealing with unintelligent dealers/users, too. There's nothing "worse" about acid than mushrooms, these are probably the type of people who think ecstasy needs a "base" drug and that mushrooms make you trip by killing brain cells, but still take these drugs.

 

i feel like it's much more common for people to think that acid is more hardcore than shrooms, even though most "heads" would agree that, if anything, it's the opposite.

anyways, i can understand someone saying that, more than i can understand them saying "shrooms make your brain bleed!"

former is more acceptable to me than the later. but i will correct either statement

i really want to grow some shrooms...oneday

 

i remember being told that shrooms make your brains bleed... I think it was in health class actually, or maybe DARE

 

Perhaps my tone was a bit off, but nothing about my decision to use drugs is based on impulse. I've known about what weed does for ages, it just took me until I was 19 to grow the balls to use them. My drinking and smoking are both under control. Drinking happens fairly rarely, maybe once a month, I smoke at most three cigarettes in a day. I make efforts to educate myself enough on a drug before use, the only exception was Coricidin, which I don't do anymore, for several reasons. Pure DXM isn't nearly as bad as an over-the-counter pill.
I guess to answer my own question, I don't feel as if I'm in a downward spiral, since I know what my goals are, and I know how to limit usage.

I guess I just don't understand your hostility towards me.

Edit: I also have a friend who believes that Shrooms only give you a high from "Food poisoning." So you do have a point about stupid dealers/users.

 

DXM isn't great for you, but isn't the problem. Coricidin can easily kill you, it contains heart medication. You can simply research this for like..... three seconds, which is about how long it takes to find all the CCC warnings, and get a syrup without any active ingredients besides DXM Hbr. It might technically be possible to end up with a DXM addiction, but really, if you lose control of DXM, you're about as pathetic as a human can be. The danger is dropping dead from heart meds.

You seem to only know through heresay, still.... which does make me hostile. Your friend is a prime example of what I mean.

Erowid.org

 

lol I know better than to believe what ever my friends say. It took my brother a few days to convince me to take coricidin. I had looked into the stuff as well, and figured I'd give it a shot. I did it maybe three or four times, and haven't touched it in a couple months.
I'd like to try shrooms so that I know what they're like, not just going off what other people say. I know that it's the chemicals in shrooms that make you trip. Not food poisoning, or brain-bleeding. I also know to not eat too much when I do.
So, I know a little bit more than heresay, though less than an actual user. Hell, we all got started somewhere, right?

 

I don't see why you'd research CCC's, and then take them.... but okay, I'll forget it, and focus on the future.

DXM is a psychedelic, but in a very different way from mushrooms. You need to do some reading before you take them, they have the power to fuck your shit up for life, or show you who you really are, or all sorts of combinations of the above. It's not the sort of thing you just try to find out what it's like, it's the sort of thing you read trip reports and descriptions of to be as prepared as possible for, and that STILL knocks your socks off.

Again, read on erowid.org. It's a very good resource. The sort of behavior that might leave you with a sore head the next day with alcohol will leave you trying to impress the voices in your head the next day with mushrooms, and maybe for ever..... Like one of our members here.

 

Acid=Bright side of tripping

DXM=Dark side of tripping

When in doubt erowid erowid erowid.

 

I know what you mean about DXM. I had some residuals of it for about a week. Nothing major, just brief spouts of weirdness. Thank god it went away. Also, I'll be checking out Erowid more often, thanks for the link, man.

 

You are talking about casings which is a great technique to increase yields. I highly recommend skipping over verm and peat as casing materials and going right for the coconut coir.... mushrroms love coir like a fat kid loves cake.

If starting with the pf tek I would review all of these links

http://www.fungifun.org/English
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJQrsZFQdE"]Let's Grow Mushrooms! pf tek part 1 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-wEPM1wpZQ"]Let's Grow Mushrooms! pf tek part 2 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGQok-UnyJE"]Let's Grow mushrooms! pf tek part 3 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPi6q5rWi6U"]Let's Grow Mushrooms! pf tek part 4 - YouTube
http://www.thenook.org/archives/tek/sub-prep.htm
http://www.thenook.org/archives/13.html
http://www.thenook.org/archives/4580.html

 

Wow, that is a lot of links! I'll definitely give them a look over when I have some time. I'll probably be back to ask more stupid questions in a day or so. Thanks a lot, Grainpsilo, and you too RooRshack.

 

To your original question of descending or rising, that all depends on the governing morals that you are trying to follow.

 

That's literally the best pic I've ever seen LOL! ¬

 

Why must you disrespect him so badly? He came here to ask, so atleast he knows how to do it and not poison himself from an infected TEK. If he didn't come here he would have a high possibility of dying. I would insult you but I know better.