Ron PAUL!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PsychonautMIA, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. PsychonautMIA

    PsychonautMIA Chimps gonna chimp

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    So let me begin by shedding some light on my background. I am an 18 year old, 90's baby, who has gained a lot of sudden interest in the political standings of the USA.

    What i really want to address in this post is the history of Ron Paul and the indifference of political parties in the U.S political system. I do not want to come off as a conspirator but we all know who's pulling the strings here.

    Fractional Reserve Banking aka Federal Reserve aka Private Banks

    Now... back to Ron Paul. My confusion with all this is that, if political parties do not really matter since we all know who pulls the strings. Why should we vote this year? I mean there has been a lot and i mean ALOT of talk about Ron Paul. Even a quick youtube search and the comments are filled with the cliche "Light at the end of the tunnel" Ron Paul is our man kind of deal.

    I know he has been running for a long time, but up until now it seems nobody has been voting for him (well to me since im very young, someone please correct me). The point im trying to make is.. How can we know Ron Paul can institute change in America. It seems too many people are putting their faith into this one man. Even i have some faith in the man but my other half tells me no president is worth voting for now since it is irrelevant.

    As Rothschild said back in 1838 "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws"
     
  2. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Ron Paul has been an elected official for a long time, and seems to stick to his values even when it goes against his party. I don't agree with a lot of his policies, but at least he follows through.
     
  3. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    In what way do you believe the Federal Reserve is ‘pulling the strings’ and what shape would your system take if it wasn’t there?

    As to Ron Paul the question for me is not his ability to get them passed but there desirability full stop.

    I mean to me the problem with the American system is that wealth has too much power and influence and my problem with right wing libertarians like Ron Pauls is that their solution to that seems to be a disire to give even more power and influence to wealth.
     
  4. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I think you're an asshole if you think we all think like you do. Read the other Ron Paul threads.
     
  5. WolfLarsen

    WolfLarsen Member

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    Ron Paul wants to get rid of regulations. Can you imagine what's going to happen to the food industry? You might as well call Ron Paul President E. coli!

    And under Ron Paul if you're in an accident and you can't afford your medical care you will die.
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    If Ron Paul became president he would NOT be able to CHANGE one thing that he wants to change. It is NOT in the president's power to change the things he wants to change like the Fed or marijuana laws. All these things he wants are pipe dreams that becoming president won't make a difference about.

    This is why all the Ron Paulies are fools. They obviously don't understand the political system, that Ron Paul seems to think that he alone can change. It's all B.S.

    What he can do however is play into the CONSERVATIVE Republican agenda and sign into law anything they pass thru Congress including removing SS and Medicare. He's for less Federal government so all the protections and benefits we enjoy across the country would disappear, and states would have a field day cutting back even more on the social safety net, allowing many to be denied benefits when they truly need them.

    Anyone blindly following Ron Paul is an idiot. 'Nuf said.
     
  7. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^ This ^^^
     
  8. primalflow

    primalflow Member

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    Ron Paul is a politician. Nothing more. Fuck him....
    and no, Scooby and the gang aren't going to find a real monster tonight; it's just Old Man Jenkins.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I agree that Ron Paul wouldn't be able to change anything. Politics are a joke, and yes, politicians are politicians, regardless of what they say or portray themselves to be. Presidents do not run shit. NOTHING. Politics is simply the script given to the public to believe in, while behind the scenes it's always the same assholes running shit. That is what so-called "democracy" really is.

    However, if one was to believe in the illusory bullshit designed to keep us distracted, and if politics actually were real, Ron Paul is obviously 100 times better (at face value at least) than any of these other jokers running. But again the whole thing is a joke and not real.

    I am not for limited government. I would be fine with no government at all, but that wouldn't work since people are too dependent on it and wouldn't stand for it. Most people don't want freedom, they want the government to coddle and provide for them. This is how we have been trained and domesticated like cattle since birth.

    I think Ron Paul is being used to draw people disillusioned with the system back into its grips. He is being used as controlled opposition -- somebody for a certain segment of the population to get behind and support, unaware of the fact they're just wasting their time.

    The whole system can go fuck itself for all I care. I have no use for any of it, and I will never do anything as retarded as voting again in my life.

    Fuck Obama. Fuck that Ken Doll Mitt Romney. Fuck Rick Sanitorium. Yes, fuck Ron Paul, too. Fuck them all!!
     
  10. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Skips right if the worst case scenario happened the most likely stuff that he’d get passed are those things that would most negatively impact the majority of Americans while enriching a few.

     
  11. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    It's in charge of the money supply. It could cause depressions or hyperinflation if it wanted to and maybe it does since it's a private bank and is owned by unknown people.

    The system I would advocate is a free system with currency that doesn't have interest attached to it. Currency is simply grease in the gears of trade afterall.
     
  12. Party Poison

    Party Poison Guest

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    Ron Paul is a nutter. And a threat to humanity.

    PROS:
    -Anti War
    -Anti Federal Reserve
    -Anti Drug War

    CONS:
    -Eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency
    -Eliminate Public Schools
    -Privatize Education
    -Allow drilling on protected land.
    -Deregulate the market and banking.
    -Deregulate industry including big oil.
    -Allow discrimination (Eliminate the Civil Rights Act of 1964)
    -Eliminate minimum wage.
    -Destroy unions and workers' rights.
    -Eliminate labor laws.
    -Eliminate ALL public safety nets.
    -Value property owners over all others.


    In essence, he's a social darwinish whom I would argue is no better than a fascist, and given what I've provided above, is incredibly dangerous. No thanks.
     
  13. Looktothelight7

    Looktothelight7 Member

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    ^^ you are acting like a ron Paul America will be an anything goes society

    I bet Dr Paul cares more about the enviromemt than other dirt bags

    What the person above me described sounds like he or she is for a European style social welfare state.

    Ron Paul is protecting everybody, he will not hesitate to honor needs for anyone.

    @ person asking the question..I am 20 and a vote for ron Paul can mean less mess for me and you to live in during the next 70 years we'll be alive. Youth for ron Paul! Indie liberal socialists need to se the light
     
  14. Looktothelight7

    Looktothelight7 Member

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    As we hear during his awesome rallies: PRESIDENT Paul! PRESIDENT Paul!

    :DDDD
     
  15. Looktothelight7

    Looktothelight7 Member

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    Also, FDIC banking is already 'regulated'. Its twisted. I've long since quit banking FDIC banks
     
  16. Looktothelight7

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    Yep, ron Paul would let people get their arm ripped up in a factor and not have any rights about that - sarcasm -
     
  17. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sarcasm? If there are no laws or regulations providing recourse against a company that deliberately endangers employees , what would you do if you lost your arm in a defective machine? Oh yeah you can quit... except that they would already have fired you.
     
  18. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Look

    Ok you support Ron Paul but why given all the criticisms of his right wing libertarian stance that so far no Paulet has been able to address let alone refute?
     
  19. Gedio

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    Companies that provided dangerous food would quickly go out of business and give more customers to reliable businesses, plus there wouldn't be any lobbyists vying for regulations to protect them from small competitors, leaving the customer with more choice with regardss to who he purchases his food from.
     
  20. Gedio

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    Implying bolded things aren't PROS.
     

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