God and OUR children

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http://www.moller.com/skycar/m400/

Occam

 

I, robot was not a very good movie. Its funny that you bring it up though, because I was just about to bring up the book, which was excellent. In one of the stories in it, some men are trying to setup an an AI robot on a spacestation, to monitor the earth, but they were having troubles with it because it would not listen to them. It felt that since the Earth was its purpose, the Earth was its god and creator. The humans tried to convince it that they were its creator, but it wouldnt listen, as its reasoning was that god had given them that idea, that they created robots, so they could properly perform their duties, which basically consisted of maintaining the robots.

my point being, would it matter what we told robots what god is? Most likely, since they have their own abilities of thought, reason and logic, they would create their own versions of 'truth', and come up with their own reasons on why we hold the 'truths' that we do.

 

Necessity is the mother of invention, as it goes, Europe having far less capability compared the US in the area of ENERGY, will be the pioneers in revolutionary energy production.

 

Thumontico

Zero point energy. First we have to be able to access it....
We dont even know it it actually exists..or what it is.
We only theorise it as a possible cause to a percieved effect.

Occam

 

Yeah, I know. I am not familiar with solar energy, so forgive me for my ignorance, however, are you sure that it is as efficient and productive as you claim?

 

pfft. This point will just make me richer. Breaking the 'rules' of physics will just mean noone will believe me until I do it, and get rich cause noone stole the idea. And carbon 14 comes into the atmosphere, it would take energy to do that! And and and.....so there. You must have a stinky girlfriend.

 

Disarm

Occam waits for you to do it...
Hopefully you will..
And occam had a stinky girlfriend once...she was the best sex he ever had.
She was ANIMAL

Occam

PS
Occam thinks you MAY find a loophole...
We in our ignorant arrogance.
Think we know the physics of reality. This is false.
Our facts. Are what we call that which generates no contradiction.

Thus scientific fact is that which works every time,,so far...
In a reality of time/motion [one and the same]
We may come across a place where the laws of HUMAN physics do not apply.
That place may be a 3space location...
Or in the human mind

For we know little of either...

 

I hear ya Occam, and think you are bang on. Facts are in fact not. They are theories, illusions, propaganda, and lies, for the most part.
Ignorant arrogance. Perfect description, it is an epidemic.
I know so little of what life, reality, our reason for existence, etc. are. I feel that there is a reason, it is not all just a meaningless exercise in growing complex carbon crystals. I believe there is a reason, though have no clue what it is, I have a strong faith in Spirit, and also, am clueless what that means.
I have been utterly convinced, by their occurences, though, that there have been, here, in my life, many events that totally defy the 'laws' of physics.
If others have not had these kinds of things happen, I am not surprised that they doubt their validity, I very likely would too. I actually did ignore them for years myself.

 

There is stinky and there is STINKY. I love the scents of a womans body, as long as it is not due to weeks of not washing at all. My mates underarms after a days work are an aromatic turn on. And the taste and smell of her, uh......nether regions, hint hint, wink wink, are nectar of the Goddess.
That said, I once was kissing a girl that I refused to undo her belt, as the odor coming through the denim was already more than I could bear.

 

I have the Popular Science mag from well over a decade ago that previewed the m400, and have kept up on its status. I am very p'd off that the gov't. has put so many 'suggested' features, such as making the operation of it automatic. This is alledgedly to make it safer, but I doubt that is the actual reason. I was so disappointed by that possibility. Why not make planes, boats, and cars that way then? What a drag that would be.
It is a tad beyond my budget to buy the m400 this month, but I think it is cool.

 

". energy, if im correct, can only be converted into energy. i believe theres no known way to take something, such as carbon14, and create energy. energy is conserved; never used, never created, only converted."

This is incorrect. Far too simplistic.

E=MC2. Nuclear fission as well as fusion convert matter into energy. These processes occur naturally in stellar bodies, as well as through radio-active decay.

Conservation of energy indeed states that energy can be "used up", IF by "used up" you mean "becomes unavalible for further work". This is the essence of Entropy.

 

The theories I tend to lean towards are the ones that do not differentiate between them. Matter IS energy. The differences are from the resonance, speed, and effects of outside forces, such as gravity.
Dewey Larson's proposal that Gravity, Magnetism, and Electricity are the first, second and third phase of the same force sounds plausible to me too.
And Cathie (I think), wrote that matter is detuned light, which sounds good to me too.

 

I do not doubt in the least that E does equal MC2.

The difference between "matter" and energy is a quantum difference, no more.

 

Yeah, ol' Einstein's better half was no slouch, huh?
I do not appreciate the critics who say that Einstein was wrong and Darwin was wrong. They were not, the newer generations required their enlightening master strokes of scientific hypothesizing to move forward. How they can then slam their sources of knowledge is beyond me. They may have been inaccurate, but they were closer to the bulls eye than anyone else in their day, in my view.
I love quoting Einstein, as he made some spiritual comments I find comforting and sound true to me.
He called his wife a 'collaborator' on E=MC squared's creation. Then gave her the entire sum of money the Nobel prize awarded him for it. This is, in my view, very telling. Collaborator is not the same as assistant, or contributor, or helper. It means something akin to 'partner', or 'equal developer'.

Cool, huh?

 

Seems to me, if god exist, Einstien was one of his greatest gifts to mankind.

As for Darwin- his theories were clearly products of the evolution of human understanding.
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BlackGuardVIII- I suspect you are among the few to taste the flavor of comprehension, brother.

And so, for your entertainment, perplexion, and indignation, a quote from a story that may yet be finished:

The Dust Mote.

The Professor, “What the hell-!?! “

Dust Mote, “What is quite clear. Hell, however is far from evident.”

The Professor, perplexed, “Who? Where? What-?”

“Who is you. Where is here, and as for what, you have come here quite plainly.”

The Professor, “Where is here? Who- no, What are you?”

“My dear fellow, since you are unclear about your what’s, it would seem only natural that you have misplaced your who’s and where’s. For my part, I shall enlighten you. Here is not there, and who, if not you, is me. As for what, about which what would you be wondering, if not the what, indeed, that you are here?”

The Professor, “What are you, my peculiar apparition?”

“I am what I am.”

The Professor, “And what would that be?”

“I am me. What, indeed, are you, my demanding questionnaire?
I have given you all the answers that are here, perhaps you had better try to find your answers there.”

“This can’t be real-“, the Professor doubts.

“Reality is as Reality does,” confirms the Dust Mote, “but, upon reconsideration, if there becomes here, here must become there, and the limits of here are therefore expressible as the distance to there”.

“And what might that expression be, my logical hallucination?”

"It's as small as the Universe is, and it's as large as the Universe is", explains the Dust Mote.

"But then what is the difference between here and there my good, ah- Who and what are you?" inquires the Professor.

"The same as before, of course," elucidates the Dust Mote.
"Since beginnings begin endings and endings end beginnings, than naturally the end of the ending is the beginning of the beginning."
SHADE FALLS
“Over there shall soon be here, and I have given you all of my answers. So look over there”. A VIOLENT BREEZE BLOWS THE DUST MOTE AWAY.

“Wait!-“

“Who is you! Where is here! You’ll have to find what by yourself!”
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THE MOTH ON THE EDGE OF AN ASH TRAY NEXT TO A SMOLDERING ROACH. THE PROFESSOR INTERRUPTS THE MOTH LECTURING ITSELF.

“…and therefore it is self evident that the fundamental concept expressed requires the consideration of the dynamic aspects of the basic nature of the essential structure upon which the entire theory rests.”

“Excuse me, I’m lost. Where am I?”

“Haven’t you been paying attention?” asked the moth, INHALING DEEPLY AS A SWATH OF SMOKE ROLLS BY.

“Oh- yes, but…”

THE MOTH EXHALES A CLOUD THAT ENGULFS THE PROFESSOR.
“To begin with, it must be recognized that essentials elements of the basic theory of Here require the supposition that the static nature of where must intersect the dynamic nature of When at the most fundamental level in order to form the Now. “

“Ah- then, When am I?” Ask The Professor, lost in a sea of smoke.

“Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now…” the moth’s voice fades away.
THE SOUND OF FLAPPING WINGS.
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This may well be the most resonable thing I ever wrote!

 

Its 13, and I could send you the reasons why if you like......as for the duel, if it did come to pass, I'd likely let you win...I am such a softie.

Okay, now for my rebuttals, me? comprehension, merci, mon frere, mais non, I feel like a total idiot many times a day, and for good reasons.
thanks anyway, I am actually learning, and have been since around the age of 32, when I feel I started to grow up.

Very well written little story, I liked it. I will read it again, which I always do when something I read is very thick with meaning.

Barney Rubble once said to Fred Flintstone, "It takes a smart man to know how stupid he is." So, if he is right, since I know I am really stupid (but improving), I might actually be a genius, like our local provincial school system judged me to be in grade six. However, emotional maturity was not in the tests.......and I would have got an F there....

cheers, love your posts. BG13 that is XIII just to confirm, geezzzzzzz!

 

Opps!

I'm a drunken and lousy typist!

 

you may be hammered, but you are not a bad typist.

opps? lol


well, at least you're an honest, open, drunken typist.

I can well recall many times I imbibed one too many, though it was long ago, at least 5 years.

I may be stupid, but I know what love is. Forrest Gump

 

geckopelli. love the writing... (post 35)

 

Thanks!