Hi i am new to trying opiates. yesterday i tried two 10mg/325 oxycodone pills and i was feeling pretty good. Today however i snorted a 4mg hydromorphone pill. I snorted 2mg at around 9:20am and then i snorted the other 2mg an hour later. I didn't get much effect which seems to be the correct response from what i have read about the drug. Maybe 30 to 60 minutes later i took a 10mg oxycodone pill. then an hour later i took another 10mg oxy. my question is whether or not i am at risk for overdosing? i ask this because i am opiate naive and have no tolerance. Should i be worried? do the two drugs have a powerful effect when combined? i am kinda freaking out about this for some reason even tho i feel ok so far. but it seems to be getting stronger little by little. Your help and advice is appreciated thank you.
thank you for your help man. it would be nice to get more input from other members as well. I'm just really freaking out! lol
wait a bit ... etkearne is the guy who can answer all your opiate questions ... hopefully he stumbles across this thread in awhile
yea well what if i die lol. i don't think i will even tho i have 0 tolerance. i just want to know if i can go to sleep and expect to wake up. ^^ i sound like such a noob
i am worried about my breathing stopping is what i am saying. i called the poison control center but they can't really advise you. they just tell you to go in and get help and won't answer any questions other than the dosage and such
I checked an opiod comparison chart which shows Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) to be 5 times as potent as Morphine, taken orally. If that is correct, then 4mg of hydromorphone would be equivalent to 20mg of Morphine. That's not a large dose. I don't know what the equivalence would be snorting it. Anyway, even with 20mg of Oxy on top of that, I think all you can expect is a good time, so chill out and enjoy it. Plus, according to your post this dosage was spaced out over a period of about 3 hours, so I don't see any danger, considering your first dose was 9:20 am and your post was made at 4:44 pm. Well, actually your most recent post was 6:27 pm. So relax.
No problem. I'm actually a little surprised you're still feeling a buzz after all this time, but that's due to low tolerance. Plus, Oxy's have always had a fairly strong sedative effect on me myself, much more so than Vicoden, which is what I take every day. Except for the times that I snorted the old version of Oxycontin. Those were more euphoric and energetic than swallowing Oxycodone, at least for me. Also, Oxy can have a fairly long-lasting sedative effect, especially for people who aren't used to it. So if you start nodding off, that's just a normal part of the experience.
That is a super low dose of Hydromorphone. Hydromorph doesn't really do shit for anyone unless IV'ed, or unless they have NO tolerance. If you did that much Hydromorph with no feelings, then you are fine on the Oxycodone, as that isn't a super high dose either. Just monitor your breathing, and don't take anything else for now. Also, Oxycodone has a VERY short half-life...meaning that half of the drug will be metabolized and basically out of your system before you even know it..2-4 hours or so. So re-dosing or overdosing on Oxycodone is very, very rare, if taken alone. Even mixed with that small dose of Hydromorph, you are fine. Tell us about what opiates you have taken in the past, how many times, ROA, etc....
yeah, oxycodone is like twice as strong or so than a vicodin, one perc, would be like taking two vic's (can't remember the exact conversion but it's around that area), but I still held onto my old 80mgOC's when I heard about the new OP's coming in. I just like to look at them, the OC's are fatter and shorter than the OP's I think. I have a picture comparing them, but it's on my site, might take a new pic though. Anyways about this other dude, you probably know by now you're not going to die, but really with morphine like morphine sulfate tablets take a while to kick in, also snorting a drop of water wouldn't hurt to get it going faster. Took me about half an hour to an hour or so to feel it, I snorted 60 mg(bioavailability up to 60%), my normal dose orally (around 30%), but I think the bioavailability is like 2x stronger, meaning would be like 120mg, because I got pretty up there and passed out. If you crushed it right, and into tiny little particles it would kick in fast, also if you snorted it right and got a lot deep inside your nose you can feel a quick kick and maybe even a buzz. If you feel chunks going inside will take even longer and be a 'broken' buzz, from being high to low then maybe slowly high again, should be crushed right. And if you are taking that low, might as well use a rig, and shoot it up. That's why they cost so much, and why the old OC (oxycontin) use to be so pricey since they can be smashed and shot. If injecting just very slowly and you'll feel it, before just shoving in a whole shot. Anyways though they are different opiates, they do build on each other in your brain causing a bigger euphoria, and though you may pass out and sleep, that is a good thing, happens with most non-opioid tolerant people. Anyways be careful with those percocets (10mg oxy/325mg apap 10/325) the tylenol will make your stomach bleed if you take too much 6-12 can make certain bleed but the limit for tylenol a day is 3,000mg 9/10 pills will reach that limit and more will cause bleeding leading to ulcers, though may take from the first use to weeks use, I've seen it happen to people on their first attempt at 8 pills. Though look up an opiate bioavailability chart, and you can do some simple math to see how much stronger it is when snorted. Anyways if the high is too strong make sure you are breathing well, have some milk and bread, then take deep breathes to make sure your tidal volume is adequate, you'll be fine. Though not medical advice I take an energy drink, or my ritalin to help my heart get faster and my breathing usually increases, but I'd talk to a doctor or PHARMACIST about mixing drugs, whether recreational or prescribed, always good to know.
