Lawyers in Germany Charge Rumsfeld With War Crimes in Iraq

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by dibblydowcus, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. dibblydowcus

    dibblydowcus Member

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    Well Germany has the best single law probably in the world right now for prosecuting alleged war criminals. You can prosecute them anywhere in the world. They have universal jurisdiction. Ricardo Sanchez, who is the general in charge of all the of the military bases in Iraq, as well as the Iraq War during the Abu-Ghraib period, his Deputy Major Picowski and Colonel Pathos, they are all at U.S. military bases in Germany. They are people the German courts allege, along with Donald Rumsfeld, who were deeply involved in the abuses and torture that took place in Iraq. Germany is different than the United States in the sense that you can actually bring a criminal complaint and the prosecutor has to do something with it. He has to either investigate it, go ahead and do something, indict people, or he could reject it, but in that case you can always go to a court. The German complaint is 160-some pages, quite detailed. Most of it is based on the public record of what these people have authorized over a period of years.
    If people visit the CCR web site at ccr-ny.org, you will in a few minutes find a letter you can send directly to the German prosecutor urging the German prosecutor to begin a serious investigation.
     
  2. nohelmetlaws

    nohelmetlaws Banned

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    If there is any country that should shut the hell up it's Germany, boy that is the pot calling the kettle black.
     
  3. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I don't know about that. German officials were charged for their war crimes, why should they not repay the favor?
     
  4. dibblydowcus

    dibblydowcus Member

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    Wow, that sounds like America vor allem sonst to me! If what your refering to is Nazi Germany, you should know that things have moved on since those days. I think it's a testament to a level of social conciousness that such a law exists to protect other nations by using the resources of Germany. This is the sort of action which would otherwise draw economic, political or military sanctions from the US and I'm pleased to see that someone is willing to stand up to these people.
     
  5. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    NHL simply demonstrates the very disregard for the universal application of the rule of law and accountability - for the leaders of powerful countries as well as those of weaker nations - as well as the sort of arrogant self aggrandizing and unapologetic uber nationalism which supported the rise to power and subsequent historic abuses of the Nazis. If it were late 1930's Germany, one could undoubtedly hear those same smug comments eminating from the lips of many German citizens now seen for having (like so many citizens of nations previously aspiring to empire) been on the wrong side of history.

    That myopic mentality, as with the all too oft repeated roster of accompanying political and military wrongs it blindly endorses, is simply what one can expect from those who refuse to learn the lessons of history and the glaring warning signs of its revisitation to the world under a new guise.

    If ever there were such a breeding ground for a resurgence of the very hubris that made the Third Reich and its war of expansionistic aggression possible in the first place, it is the largely insulated, unwordly, and thus easily spun and propagandised populace of the US. NHL is sadly, a sterling example of the vast majority of my countrymen.

    Let them, like their historic counterparts, learn the hard way where such neanderthilic mentality will lead our nation. Perhaps a fresh example to the world of the principles our grandfathers fought and died to establish is just what this generation needs.
     
  6. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Please Lickerish....don't say things like that. There are other ways in which our youth can be motivated to make change, but sending them to war is not the answer, if that happens, they become pawns for the government and their phony corporate driven motives, they become part of the system in which we need as many people as we can to fight. the youth of this country need to wake up, and we together can wake them up, why don't we get together and make enough money to run a few advertisements on TV, why not start a protest in your area, or start a club at school, you may be suprised, but these things DO make people more aware, for every non opinionated, a-political person out there....there is an anti-bush poster or documentary, or even bushisms, that can just tick something off in there head and get them a little more interested, which could lead to them becoming very seriously political in farther days ahead, the only reason that so many people are unaware (and we allllllll love to bash on them) is because people that ARE aware sit around and complain about the state of politics....it is our responsibility to wake them up.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  7. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    yay!!! although no one seemed to care when i charged him with war crimes.
     
  8. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Nowhere in the post above did I advocate sending our boys to war. If you take the time to read it, youll see that I eschew our expansionistic wars of aggression. It is the repercussions for such unmitigated resort, on the part of our corrupt leaders, to militancy (just as with the Nazis and there efforts at colonial expansion) that I say let the idiots, who cheer our warmongering policies, be made to confront. A fresh application of the Nuremburg Principles for an unquestioning and arrogant US citizenry in the 21st Century.
     
  9. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I bet these war criminals thought that no one was going to hold them accountable for their actions. I doubt anything will happen to them; being the rich, powerful pussies that they are, they won't even show up to court. They'll dismiss the claims, call Germany "uncivilized", and then invade the country, saying that they have "evidence" to show that Germany is planning on invading America.
     
  10. boringtree

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    i wish em look with the efort. i sent the email an all, but even god would have a hard time getting that retard into a court
     
  11. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    Although I doubt the many headed beast that is often referred to as the "Bush Administration" will see a day in court anytime soon, it certainly makes a profound statement towards their culpability when Germany gets involved. right on.
     
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