DMT after 25i-NBOMe

Discussion in 'DMT' started by peacegrow, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. peacegrow

    peacegrow Member

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    I couldn't decide whether to put this in the DMT forum or the synthetic drugs forum...but I decided the DMT part was what really made it interesting.

    Took about 500-600ug, in 2 drops, of 25i-NBOMe, which was fun. More like LSD at a lower dose than at a higher dose for me. Came on fast, but definitely kept creeping in for a few hours. Enough so that I was kind of glad I didn't have another drop at 1/2 hour like I almost did. Played a little bit of Wii with a friend, which was fun, and just hung out like a normal night all most.

    After about 5-6 hours, I was by myself and scrapped up a little vaporizer weed resin. I got kind of stoned, and decided to try some DMT.

    After a 1/2 hour of mental preparation, I smoked about 50mg, two separate times out of a glass Chinese water pipe (just straight DMT on screens), and both times I had a very beautiful primary experience. They were only about 45min apart.

    Both times, I remember I was floating through a three dimensional multicolored world of living trinkets and morphing things. It kind of reminded me of this type of thing: http://www.walterwick.com/ispy_funhouse_bts.htm , but morphing and in space, with me floating through it at a nice pace. An endless supply of new and unique animated items surprised and delighted me.

    At one point during the first experience I laughed out loud because I said to myself, "I have to remember what I'm thinking and feeling right now, this is so cool," and then I quickly realized that I couldn't explain it all to myself when I wasn't experiencing it anymore...it seemed really silly to try.

    But I do remember the jist of the main trip and some of the amazing visual parts.

    Both times, though, towards the end when I was coming down, and the visuals were starting to fade, I became really sad about a two different deeply personal things that bother me from time to time. It was as if these two things were in my subconscious and being forced out. I don't really want to go into details about what they are right now, but it was probably a good thing to bring them into the open even if it wasn't totally fun.

    It felt like they were hiding, and I could now see how these repressed thoughts were affecting me in daily life.

    It was kind of strange because the main trips where pretty much a complete joy, full of awe and beauty, but it was during the come down, and maybe the transfer of control back to the 25i-NBOMe which brought on the subconscious feelings.

    Each time, I thought about the issue for a little while, and then decided it was time to drop it for now and enjoy the present moment. It was pretty easy to do that when I tried consciously, and a lesson of how I should confront them in daily life. Instead of repressing them, I should accept them and more on.

    One other weird notion crossed my mind. It may have only been the second time, but it has a strong feeling of deja-vu: Just before the transition from beauty and awe to where my subconscious was thrust to the foreground, I had this weird feeling of recursion and some strange notion of either a flaw or something intentional that shows that there is recursion going on. A feeling of some kind of recursion that's not obvious, but where, either something degrades until the recursion can no longer go on, or that there is something inserted into the recursion to make it obvious.

    I don't know if that recursion thing makes any sense, but it did at the time, and still does to me somehow. It was a strange feeling, partly because it was kind of unclear if it was an intentional part of the recursion or some kind of degradation or flaw.

    I don't know if the recursion notion was related to the uncovering of the subconscious somehow. Perhaps some kind of recursive thoughts are what "help" me repress these two issues, but that the recursive thoughts were somehow breaking down to reveal them. Maybe the flaw or insertion which revealed it was the DMT/25i-NBOMe.

    The whole thing together was a great experience. One of the nights that I will remember most in all the times I experience these things. Best of all, I think I was able to take something from it that can help me in my daily life.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    Wow thanks for this report! Great that you were able to get something from the combo, I know we've discussed before about how 25I nbome had not quite got us there, it's good to see you have a very beneficial experience with 25i and the DMT. I had a bit of difficulty of following some of this probably due to the excluded details but sounds great that you were able to face your personal issues and take something from the experience.
     
  3. peacegrow

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    I was definitely more impressed this time. A smallish dose after not taking anything for a while seemed like it was a little more fulfilling, even before the DMT.

    Yeah, I wish I was better at putting some of this into words. The whole recursion thing seemed like a split second idea, that I don't really understand myself completely, but it had a big impact for some reason.
     
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