"That's just your opinion"/"in my opinion"

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Duck, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Sarah_Again

    Sarah_Again Inspires Irrelevancy

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    We were taught in school NEVAR to announce in an essay we are sharing our opinion of the topic, it is redundant. Obviously it is our opinion.

    Anything that you say is your opinion, or better described as your interpretation of 'facts'
     
  2. Mason Grey

    Mason Grey Member

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    i think it is a problem when people use their "opinions" as a shield or weapon;
    seeing your personal opinion as indisputable or beyond discussion/reproach.

    a lot of people use 'personal opinions' as a conversation ender -
    'we have reached my personal opinion, so we can go no deeper. there is no more room for discussion.' : they have a sense that our subjective differences are irreconcilable, but also have no bearing whatsoever on our relationship.

    i think it begins to get interesting when people have a fundamental difference in opinion..
    but some people love to hide behind subjectivity.
     
  3. Sarah_Again

    Sarah_Again Inspires Irrelevancy

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    "thats just, like, your opinion, man"
     
  4. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    A claim?
     
  5. Le Aura

    Le Aura Member

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    And this gets to you why? I'm confused.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Opinions are like assholes.... everybody has one. So, what's your point, exactly?
     
  7. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    You voice an opinion and state it is a fact.

    Yes, it is that obvious: :D
     
  8. Invisible Soul

    Invisible Soul Burning Angel

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    A lot of people do see their "opinion" as indisputable and beyond reproach. Which is obviously a nonsense, as it's not possible to have an indisputable opinion about anything. This is because it's not possible to have an "opinion" on facts. Sure, you can have an opinion on facts, however, in that case an opinion is either right, or wrong. There's no grey area. If what you're saying is a concrete fact, it then ceases to be a personal opinion.

    I feel in certain instances, I have to point out that a point of view is merely my opinion, because so many people think if you are airing an opinion, it means that you also believe it is a concrete fact. If I'm using indisputible facts in a debate, I will state as much. Unfortunately, where personal opinions are concerned, some people really do need it pointed out to them that what you're saying is only an opinion.

    If someone is that stupid, they could say in their opinion 2+2 doesn't equal four. However, such an opinion can easily be dismissed as totally invalid, as 2+2 equalling 4 is an indisputable fact. Not all opinions are valid.
     
  9. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i have no opinion on this subject.
     
  10. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Now I am just going to have the urge to start every post with "In my opinion..."
     
  11. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    If everyone just spouted facts I wouldn't have a reason to disagree with them. What a boring world that would be. It'd be perfect don't get me wrong, but boring for sure.
     
  12. RetiredHippie

    RetiredHippie Hick

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    IMHO duck should always be roasted, never pan fried.
     
  13. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    In your opinion [​IMG]

    But in fact there’s an extremely rare genetic disease in which the fetus does not develops an anus


    hotwater
     
  14. Invisible Soul

    Invisible Soul Burning Angel

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    You'd be surprised at the amount of people who argue and disagree with facts...
     
  15. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    That is because a lot of what people assume are facts are not really facts.
     
  16. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    True. And a lot of actual facts can be very misleading and biased. Did you know that 67% of percentage based facts are completely made up?
     
  17. dazedgatsby

    dazedgatsby shitheel

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    I agree.
     
  18. Invisible Soul

    Invisible Soul Burning Angel

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    How can a fact be misleading and biased? An opinion masquerading as a fact doesn't make it so.

    Going by that logic, if 67% of percentage based facts are made up, that "fact" itself, is likely to be completely made up. :p

    The problem is, there is a lot of facts that some people simply can't comprehend, or handle, so they'll argue against them, even if it is indisputable. I usually view percentage based "facts" as a guide, or a marker, about an issue. Rather than a concrete fact. Though they certainly can be used to strengthen one's arguement. Of course, it also depends on the source...
     
  19. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    It wasn't likely made up, it WAS made up....by me, just then.

    Rereading what I wrote, I can see I wasn't very clear.

    A theory is not a fact un till proven so. You can have pages upon pages of true facts that SUPPORT a theory....but that doesn't necisarily make the theory true. In discussion a lot of People like to list a bunch of facts that support a certain theory and then claim the theory as a fact.

    Facts, although being a complete truth, can often be interpreted to bring different conclusions. Let's taking a simple sentence to prove my point....

    "I didn't say that he beat his wife."

    The fact in that statement is that I never said that the guy beat his wife. The problem is that language can be tricky, and the language used to present facts can be used to lead to different conclusions. Let's take the same sentence (fact) and use language to put emphasis on different words. I don't know how to use italics or bold print here so I'll just use caps.

    ">I< didn't say that he beat his wife."
    "I didn't SAY that he beat his wife."
    "I didn't say that HE beat his wife."
    "I didn't say that he BEAT his wife."
    "I didn't say that he beat HIS wife."
    "I didn't say that he beat his WIFE."

    I just used the same fact to imply 6 different conclusions.

    My point is that if you're clever in the way you present a fact, there are many tools you can use to interpret it in a way to bring your audience to a desired conclusion.

    Does any of that make sense?
     
  20. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    lolwut??
     
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