really deep stuff...

one day i was lying in bed, and i thought what if everybody has their own universe? what if there is BILLIONS of parralel and crossing universes? ok, how do i explain this...like what if God made each of us our own little universe to control what happens. im not saying that we are all gods, but the choises we make could affect what happens in our universe. or if you want something to happen bad enough that it does happen eventually. or if you have an unexplainable feeling that something will or will not happen.
for example: your mom says she is going to the grocery store, but you just cant imagine that happening for some reason, and it doesnt happen. something like that. or the people are all people we made up. how do you know that the people you come in contact everyday exist, or if its just a figment you made up? even people that you dont like...what if you made them up so you could have a challenge in life, or you made them up right now? WOW i think i confused MYSELF!!!

 

There are an infinite number of parallel universes... Every choice spins off a new universe for every possible outcome... Leads to some interesting outcomes too, if you think about it...

 

well that whole parallel universes theory really has no usefullness

but this is just another over-vain perspective of the universe, trying to give tyourself some sense of importance in your world, i mean isnt it clear to people when they have those theories?

 

but that is just another way to sound superior, pointing out flaws in people's ideas, because they havnt thought of it, isn't it clear to people when they say things like that?

 

How is it over-vain? You really cannot prove anything, so for all I know no one is real... Could just be dreams in dreams and there is no 'real'
... As my status says, self induced existence...

 

Hi Lucy ~ "diamond_girl"

You've basically got it right on.
We each have our own life to live in the way that we so choose. No right, no wrong. Just living as we choose.
Our choices open up potential outcomes, and each potential outcome has it's potentials ad infinitum ~ like looking at a mirror image of a mirror image.
Each potential and choice has it's own 3 dimensional reality and is in effect it's own complete "universe", into which we step (if/when we choose).

There are a bunch of really excellent books written by Jane Roberts in the 1970's - 80's that will be of great value to you if you'd like to know more. The first I'd recommend is "The Unknown Reality" Vol 1(Prentice Hall 1977). Vol 2 I have yet to track down as the books were out of print for quite some time. "The Nature of Personal Reality" (Prentice Hall 1974) is also of great value. The entire compendium of Jane Roberts' works come under the broad title "The Seth Material". Brilliant stuff.
Keep on.............

 

thanks for the references mrree ill have to try to find those-but it might be hard to find books like that in a town with two churches on each block!;(

 

you are on track with your idea, but very few here are on track with your example. we all have the potential to control a universe, albeit through already established universal laws, if we evolve to a certain degree.


we think of ourselves as possessors of will, but we are neither possessors or seekers. because we believe that we possess the power of will we do not pursue it. this is a key to our mistake.

 

yes! thats exactly what i was trying to say! thank God somebody articulate replied!!

 

for your information, i had thought of it, and recognise my ego functioning whenever i do think of it.

 

I hope the bible belt isn't too tight!:sunglasse
www.amazon.com can get 2nd hand books worldwide very cheaply. You'll need a credit card, though.
Otherwise, tap into the universal resource that's freely available within yourself and basically summarized on my wesite page http://www.cdsubliminal.com.au/My%20Personal%20Beliefs.htm
I work in the field of opening minds to the creative potential within, and the key words are ~
Individuation
Application
Determination
Adoration

 

This is exactly why Run Lola Run was such a good goddamn movie.
You must watch it.

 

that sounda awesome MrRee! ill have to check it out when i have more time. (semi finals=DEATH!!!)

 

I don't know about making people up. That's solipsism, which is defined as "the philosophical theory that the self is all that you know to exist."
The problem with solipsism, in my opinion, is: If people made up everyone and everything around them, they likely never would lead sad and depressing lives. If solipsism were true, I would immediately think up some more interesting companions and a more interesting place to live (central Ohio sucks). I'd also think up a winning lottery ticket. Sadly, I'm still stuck in Ohio. The author/intellectual G.K. Chesterton wrote a really good short story that debunks solipsism. I'd recommend it to you, but I can't remember the name of it.
(I hope I'm not coming across as being critical) I do like your concept of each of us occupying different universes. I've often felt as if all people, myself included, are seperated by different orbits. They occasionally cross - sometimes momentarily, sometimes longer - but we each occupy our own orbit for the most part. I think your universe idea, especially when you consider the interplay between the stars and the vast galaxies overhead, mirrors whats going on down here on earth.

 

G.K. Chesterton holds very much a reductionist viewpoint, an all too common failing.
Reductionism reduces everything to the lowest level of understanding, which is itself limited by the intellectual abilities and open-mindedness of the reductionists themselves, a systematic abuse that is not taken into consideration because of the presumption of a) intelligence, b) understanding, & c) correctness in all matters whether understood or not. Such mentally gymnastic peculiarities were poignantly abstracted when the los Angeles Patent Offices were closed down in the 19th century due to the belief of the Patent General of the time that everything that could be invented had already been invented, thus no need for any further patents. The folly of such is readily apparent, and highlights the power that beliefs (paradigmatic thought constraints) have over our own magnificent potential.
Similarly, the perception that consciousness is confined to "self" is the result of consciousness limited in the exploration of itself.
No universe can exist without the conscious observer.

 

True, I agree.
I believe that I am not the creator of what I see around me, but I could be wrong.
Reality is something different for us all.

It is my belief that most of what the world accepts as reality is illusion.

 

The Christ said ~ "whatsoever ye ask of your father which is in heaven (the kingdom of heaven is within..........so the creative principle is within each and everyone) believeing ye shall receive it, and ye shall receive it."

 

bunch of solipsists... It always sounds like a decent explanation of life, but it's rubbish... even if you don't look at it in a reductionist way (which isn't all that bad, imo) it's useless and pretty selfish. There isn't an infinie number of realities, there is one reality in which we are all but animals. I'm not a big fan of Nietzsche, because he was too negative about life, but people shouldn't worry about dfferent realities, because it's all anti-natural.

 

I have to agree that there is only one reality. Granted, each person can interpret it differently.
As for the reductionist viewpoint, I may be guilty of being limited by my intelligence, but I have to go by what I see and experience on a daily basis — and what I see is a reality that I am unable to shape or control (i.e. make a storm cloud appear by mere thought or provoke my mother to go to the store via an accidental daydream).
I do believe humans remain limited in their understanding of reality. It was not too long ago that people swore the world was flat and humans would never walk on the moon. Both happened, and I'm 100 percent certain that our understanding of reality, consciousness and the physical world will change as the human race ages and matures.

 

this is a question, not a suggestion, but is it possible that the more aware one becomes of their own universe and how it works, one could control it? say like if someone wanted to win something, could they convince themselves that its actually going to happen to the point that it actually does, and there's no possible way imaginable that it wont happen? that may explain how "psycic" people can tell their own future. and it could also explain how people see "ghosts": the reson why most people dont is because society convinced us they're not real. but what if people like ghost hunters are so convinced that they are real that they make them appear?