US apologises for accidentaly burning quran(s)

Well, we done fucked up now...



Pretty sure no one needs a link...anyone care to venture an explanation as to why this in not a SHTF event?

ZW

 

Dumb ass Newt Gingrich went on Piers Morgan criticizing the President for the apology.

 

I do not think the fuk-styx running the US into the ground are particularly interested in a more secure, safe world. They're likely more intent on stirring up shit in part to perpetuate justification for all manner of power grab under the guise of tighter security... necessitated by acts of galloping stupidity and less than heartfelt apologies that tend only to make matters worse. The more I see the more cynical I become... and the more credible whacked out theories seem- like keeping things unsettled in the middle east to induce oil supply issues to manipulate cost.... just when they're pretending that the economy is improving.

 

Same here. Heh,sometimes I think I might be more comfortable with the idea that lizard-men were actually running the show instead of lunatic humans..:xmasnut:


ZW

 

governments just want kids to learn English and math so they can be wage-slaves.I mean just to turn out good little capitalist to boost GDP.When did you last hear a politician talk about poetry or art?we need a whole mind-set change.Exponentially the planet cannot support ever increasing growth.But that's what they want.

 

... or cannon fodder. The really good PC gamers get to fly these really neat radio control planes they just invented...

 

The nature of the "apology" seems more likely to make matters worse than smooth things over. First, after all this time and presumed debriefing on the nature of the indigenous culture and the faith in which it is rooted and the mental "conditioning" that enables someone who formerly possesses sufficient moral compass to differentiate between right and wrong to be able to use deadly force against an enemy who is difficult to differentiate from a civilian I must strongly suspect that cultivating a measure of cultural intolerance is often necessary to enable this which to me makes the deed of burning the sacred Islamic text an act of hatred and most likely NO accident.

SO... to try characterizing the incident as accidental is such transparent bullshit that to even suggesting as much is a pretty effective way of saying, "We think you're all a bunch of simpleton morons" which only adds insult to injury. Assuming that we had any moral justification for being there in the first place we've pretty much blown it subsequent to this. "We done fucked up" indeed... the best possible thing we could do is to call it for what it is, apologize for the insensitivity that was on display and get the fuck OUT.

Of course domestic indoctrination services (mainstream news) repeatedly name it "accidental" to the point of being infuriating... that is every time the burning incident is even mentioned anywhere in a related report, "accidental" is inserted every fucking time. This will indoctrinate Joe Average to process the indigenous rage given such plentiful coverage as evidence of a lack of graciousness in light of our "sincere" apology. I wonder how they'd react if the Taliban set fire to their oh most holy bible then proffered the disingenuous copout that it was an innocent mistake. I'm sure that the mainstream noose media would word their coverage to spoon feed the idea that the amend was insincere to help cultivate the racist support for our crimes of corporate conquest that they've done so well to abet thus far.

 

I heard on the radio, and read in a few reports that the Qurans were being used by terrorist prisoners to pass messages back and forth. That the soldiers were ordered to destroy the messages in order to prevent an uprising. I don't know if this is true or not.....but if it is, what do you think they should have done with them?

 

Not sure what I'd do but that doesn't exactly bolster the claim of "accidental"-- a fallacy that is being shoved down our throats.

 

Im actually a fan of it

im not religious but I sure wouldnt throw out a bible...burning is the best way to dispose of things and return them to the earth as ashes

 

Agreed. You don't "accidentally" burn a pile of books. Saying so makes them look foolish, and to me seems to add insult to injury. But if they were being used for communication that way, IMO burning them would be the right thing to do. More respectful than shredding or simply throwing away...like stated above: returning it to the Earth.

I'd like to know what kind of messages, if any, we're found.

 

I can go along with that.. then fucking come clean. It's exasperating to see and makes me very happy that my TV is in storage and I'm not passive recipient to the indoctrination. No need to add "accidental" to every single instance that "burning" is used except to hammer into the heads of sheep.

 

I agree 100%. Literally. My TV is also in storage, along with most of my stuff.

It's like my nephew Saying it was an accident when he just pushed his little sister down. We know it's not an accident, calling it so makes it worse than just owning up to it. They're not fucking idiots.

 

I read somewhere they consider burial the most respectful way to dispose of old scriptural texts and what-not.

 

Spending an afternoon and evening with TV addicted people and graciously sparing them what I think about the idiot box and instead allowing the drivel to reinforce my distaste for it reminded me exactly how much idiocy is assumed about us as a whole. I suspect the insistence on characterizing it as an "accident" is more for our benefit... basically saying "here you go, monkeys, this is what you're supposed to think". Our politicians, incumbents and major party candidates from BOTH parties reflect this condescending contempt with their campaign messages as well... that we've as a whole shown ourselves to warrant it is most troubling.

 

I'm willing to bet this may be true. Whatever the case, those who administer our foreign policy are likely well aware of this but chose either not to instruct military personnel how to more respectfully dispense with the Quran or specifically instructed them to burn it.

 

The books were already defaced anyways, that's what you do to irreparable items. I find it ironic that Muslims were the ones who shamed these books in the first place.

 

Oh I would be willing to bet all those ground troop personnel are HEAVILY briefed on Islamic custom no-no's, I seriously doubt the soldier that was actually responsible for the burning didn't think to check out what books were being disposed of. hell, he probably snickered when he threw them in...

No doubt in my mind, every percieved advance we have made toward peace in the middle east have been vaporized right along with those books.

back to square one for peace, about to pass 'Go' for banks, oil companys, and commodity's saboteurs

 

I think thats ultra-orthodox Judaism... they certainly bury old religious texts in old rock tombs in Israel.

It seems that burning might actually be the approved course of action in the case of the Quran - see: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whats-proper-way-dispose-koran


...but in this case its not only what was done but who it was done by and the perceived intent to insult.


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I'm glad we apologized for burning the Qurans, but what about the countless innocent civilians we burned (murdered, maimed) over the last decade in our geopolitical (oil) wars? I don't think Mohammed (or Jesus for that matter) would approve. Do you?