Total SF 'Science' Garbage

Discussion in 'Sci-Fi Movies' started by Hjarloprillar, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    Where every informed peep goes 'what the'
    Like people walking in full gravity on space shuttle.
    Or black holes down the hall.. watch out.

    The MONUMENTAL ABUSE of science to grab a buck in tinpot 'sf' movies.
    THE GALL.

    hehe

    And they did.

    This even crosses over into the millitary field where tom cruise
    could not have fought a MIG 28 for there was no such plane.
    All soviet fighters were odd numbered for one.
    there was no mig 28

    Funny enough.. Much scientific accuracy in of all movies .. AVATAR


    elucidate?
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's science FICTION. Not everything they make in this part of the entertainment industry suits my taste either.
     
  3. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    It would be easy to make better movies than they make, all in staying realistic.

    But thats not the goal, they want people to be completely dumbed down, not knowing whats real or not, whats right or wrong. Thats why in modern movies almost everything is "wrong".

    So they have a population which is so dumbed down that they accept crimes like our monetary system, 9/11 or any of their wars, they are incapable of seing the injustice and irreality in such things any more.
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Is that really the fault of the movie, or is it mainly to blame on the person who likes to lose him/herself in a fictional reality, subconsciously or not? You don't think there is a common interest (besides making profit) in the movie industry to fool people as a whole right?
     
  5. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    Asmodean
    No i dont think theres' a conspiracy... Thats absurd. Its simply harder to make accurate movies, so why bother.. the proles wont notice]

    they dont read
     
  6. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    Midguard

    Agree . 'Mission to mars' is a good example. The crew area is rotation at just enough deltaV to give some [centrapedal] gravity. While the axis is zero G for a freefall dance.

    The dumbing down of our society is not so much.. it was already dumb as a rock by ad 2000
    Thus the joke called 9/11 and subsequent geopolitical/military moves across globe are far beyond the ken of the genpop.

    The world is becoming .[funny enough to quote a prime candidate in the bad science brigade.. Armageddon].
    A surrealistic nightmare
     
  7. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    What are you talking about? The only valid criticism that a piece of fiction is not "real enough" is if the criticism is of realist fiction.

    As Asmodean pointed out, science fiction is not realist fiction. It's not intended to be accurate or realistic, because this isn't the aim of the medium. Fiction can make an important point or discuss complex scientific, moral or social issues without having premises based on up to date science. In fact, it can usually do it better if it doesn't rely on such premises. Dumbing down the world has nothing to do with it.

    What's next, criticising Picasso because his portraits don't look like real people?
     
  8. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    PS.. Something that has bugged me for ages..

    TERMINATORS are robots. not cyborgs.
    Without the flesh suit the machine can operate just the same.
    It is a robot. The biological part is disguise.

    Cyborging Is adding mechanicals to existing human frame.
    The person is always the same , just with non biological parts.
    [limbs heart arms ears eyes exct.]

    Prill
     
  9. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    untrue
    Hard or Speculative Fiction
    'IS' so intended to be accurate and realistic.
    Based on all known laws of science as we understand then at this time.
    I have read thousands of SF books and own just about all SF movies made.
    And movies like star wars are pure science fantasy. a different genre altogether

    Star wars Is not science fiction. It is science fantasy.
    Afor mentioned movies ike Armageddon . ID4 are fantasy. as much as Lord of the rings is.

    I mentioned AvATAR earlier.. The only 'fantasy element' is unobtainium. excuse the pun.
    other wise the flic has little or no fantasy elements at all. I can even tell you where pandora is.. based on movie dialogue.

    FANTASY is what cannot happen in reality regarding the laws as we understand them

    Its like comparing 300
    To Saving private Ryan

    One is fantasy.. one very well could have happened

    now project that into future.. not past


    So Picasso was a realist? No. Neither is Pop Sci Fi.. SPECULATIVE FICTION
    Which is realism. speculated forwards
    Like the wright brothers.. they made a thing that was a SpecFict.. and we now fly in 747's

    Some facts
    Speculative fiction or Hard SF
    As a Genre. Has a larger vocabulary than any other literary genre.
    And. contains more new ideas based on existing parameters than any other genre.
    IT has as writers MORE Lettered career scientists than any field outside a specialisation.
    More new ideas and inventions have come from Hard or SpecF than any single arena of fiction .. EVER

    Only philosophy rivals it as a platform for thinking. and oft the 2 combine
    like attracts like
     
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