Conclusive Report on 9/11 Incident From the U.K.

A gentleman from the U.K. investigated the 9/11 incident and published this two-part video on his conclusion. He demonstrates a different perspective that is startling. His closing statement to America in part two makes us understand how the incident was orchestrated, and then used, as the compelling justification for the taking away of our last freedoms by the creation of the Patriot Act, involvement overseas, and everything else since then; on down the line.

Links to Part One & Part Two of the videos at bottom of this post.
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" I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people
by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden
usurpations.".. James Madison; 4th President of the United States(1809-1817)

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." .. John Adams; 2nd President;
(1797-1801)

"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged
in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike,
but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of
others." .. Theodore Roosevelt; 26th President (1901-1909)

"It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government
to their own selfish purposes." .. Andrew Jackson; 7th President (1829-1837)
"We dare not forget that we are the heirs of that first revolution." .. John F. Kennedy,
35th President (1961-1963)

"Everyone assumes America must play the leading role in crafting some settlement or compromise between the Israelis and the Palestinians. But Jefferson, Madison, and Washington explicitly warned against involving ourselves in foreign conflicts." .... Ron Paul
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5g5cKPxa4&feature=related"]THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON 9/11!!! 100%TRUTH (PART 1) - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSnkRol5ghQ&feature=related"]THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON 9/11!!! 100% TRUTH (PART 2) - YouTube

 

This would explain a lot of anomalies. No wreckage found at any of the 4 sites, 8 huge jet engines disappeared, without a trace, plus all of the occupants and possessions, all gone, no jets scrabbled and why the only piece of evidence of anyone on any of the planes was a terrorist's passport.

This passport was in the pocket of the terrorist piloting the plane, this plane was completely engulfed in fire, the plane was inside a building also engulfed in flames. Yet this one piece of evidence made out of paper, was found completely undamaged in the street below the twin towers, minutes after impact. Not a singe mark anywhere.

 

I propose this be moved to the conspiracy theory forum.

 

But it's not a theory.

 

Well, I see we're all in agreement on that . . .

That's just a theory.

 

Can someone summarize for me? I don't have 22 minutes to spare and find the literary portrayal of events more appeasing than a video.

 

Man, could you rewrite that last statement? I'm not able to decipher your meaning exactly; that is, if you have the time.

But the answer to your question is: no.

EDIT: Oh, I see. You find it easier to read about something than to hear it from a video. Is that what you were saying?

 

The government hit the towers with balls and edited the planes into footage taken. according to the 2nd video.

 

What kind of balls?

 

Some sort of flying ball designed to take down the towers. That has the ability to travel 200+ MPH. Sounds like a odd 911 conspiracy theory to me.

 

What was that on the video?

 

Maybe it sounds like an odd conspiracy theory, but what is it that you saw?

 

Well, apparently we're on the same page because I don't know what it was, either.

 

Thanks. Sounds pretty far-fetched, but who knows what happened? Including the maker of this video. Like always with these kinds of conspiracy videos, I wonder why he/she felt that people could not be convinced by print and a video had to be made. If the evidence is clear, it should be clear in any media.

 

Some people don't believe what they're told or what they read; and rightly so. That's the reason for the video.

What was that thing? I have no idea, myself.

 

To recap:

Carlid,

You were just shown how the conservation of momentum dictates that a near free-fall of all three towers is impossible, especially in light of the core structure upholding itself. Did you know that the core structures of those buildings were designed to support several times the weight they were designed to support?

But let's start with your belief that the fire in the towers caused the collapse, and that the core structures crumbled or melted, or what ever it is that you're believing. Speaking of magic, how is it that the fire from the jet fuel, which burned off in twenty minutes, melted steel? That's not consistent with science, and everyone who hasn't invested everything in the first thing they were told on television knows it. If you continue believing that that's science, well, you might as well wear a tinfoil hat. Since you've exposed yourself as the type who believes that, on 9/11, an extinguished fire can melt steel, let's look at that a little further.

If the inside of the tower was a raging inferno, how do you explain this:
This is a transcript of firefighters' conversations on that day, just minutes before the collapse of WTC# 2:

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"

Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."

Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"

Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."

Battalion Seven Chief: "Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15.

Fifteen."

Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay."

Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you."

Battalion Seven Operations Tower One: "Battalion Seven Operations Tower One to Battalion Nine, need you on floor above 79. We have access stairs going up to 79, kay."

Battalion Nine: "Alright, I'm on my way up Orio."
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If the inside of the tower was a raging inferno, as you seem to believe it was, then you must also believe that injured people and firefighters alike can withstand an awful lot of heat. And that's just not consistent with science or reality.
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Now here's the story behind that taped exchange:

The Department of Justice has ordered secrecy measures to keep the contents of a “lost tape” of firefighters’ voices at the World Trade Center from being made public. The 78-minute audiotape evidently debunks the accepted explanation that intense jet fuel fires melted the towers’ steel beams and caused the collapses.

The New York Times recently revealed the existence of the tape of radio transmissions between firefighters of the New York Fire Department (NYFD), which proves that “at least two men” had reached the 78th floor Sky Lobby of the South Tower. The firefighters had reported about the fires and casualties they encountered and had begun evacuating the survivors.

The article said that firefighters “reached the crash zone on the 78th floor, where they went to the aid of grievously injured people trapped in a sprawl of destruction.”

While the article raises as many questions as it answers, it points to a reason for the secrecy: “Once they got there,” the article says, “they had a coherent plan for putting out the fires they could see and helping victims who survived.”

The report names two of the firefighters who were at the crash site: Battalion Chief Orio J. Palmer, who was organizing the evacuation of injured people, and Fire Marshal Ronald P. Bucca. Both were among the 343 firefighters who perished.

The voices of the firefighters “showed no panic, no sense that events were racing beyond their control,” the Times wrote. “At that point, the building would be standing for just a few more minutes, as the fire was weakening the structure on the floors above him. Even so, Chief Palmer could see only two pockets of fire, and called for a pair of engine companies to fight them.”

The fact that veteran firefighters had “a coherent plan for putting out” the “two pockets of fire” indicates they judged the blazes to be manageable. These reports from the scene of the crash provide crucial evidence debunking the government’s claim that a raging steel-melting inferno led to the tower’s collapse.

As the FEMA “Building Performance Assessment” report says, “Temperatures may have been as high as 900-1,100 degrees Celsius (1,700-2,000 Fahrenheit) in some areas.”

“If FEMA’s temperature estimates are correct, the interiors of the towers were furnaces capable of casting aluminum and glazing pottery,” Eric Hufschmid, author of the book Time for Painful Questions writes. Yet the voices on the tape prove that several firefighters were able to work “without fear” for an extended period at the point of the crash, and that the fires they encountered there were neither intense nor large.

The South Tower disintegrated in less than an hour after being hit by a plane, which impacted between its 78th and 84th floors. “Fire has never caused a steel building to collapse,” Hufschmid writes. “So how did a 56-minute fire bring down a steel building as strong as the South Tower?”
Hufschmid’s forthcoming book presents compelling evidence that explosives caused the towers to collapse.

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I guess my question to you is: How can you hold on so tightly to your idea about the heat being so hot that it melted or otherwise caused steel to crumble so quickly?

Pointing to the Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia in 1991, Hufschmid writes, “The Meridian Plaza fire was extreme, but it did not cause the building to collapse. The fire in the South Tower seems insignificant by comparison to both the Meridian Plaza fire and the fire in the North Tower. How could the tiny fire in the South Tower cause the entire structure to shatter into dust after 56 minutes while much more extreme fires did not cause the Meridian Plaza building to even crack into two pieces?”

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PA), the bi-state authority and owner of the World Trade Center, retrieved the “lost tape.” A spokesman for the authority, Greg Trevor, told AFP that the tape was found in PA police offices at 5 WTC, “two or three weeks” after 9-11. The PA police monitored radio transmissions from the WTC.

Because of an unexplained delay in producing the tape, it was believed “for months” that firefighters had gone no higher than about the 50th floor in each tower. The delay, Trevor said, was due to the time required to transfer the voice data to “encrypted CDs.”

In January or February, the PA offered a copy of the tape to NYFD officials, who reportedly declined the offer because they did not want to sign the confidentiality agreement as demanded by the PA. The Independent of Britain added that the PA “held back from sharing it with police and only relinquished it on condition that a confidentiality agreement was signed.”

“That’s not correct,” Trevor told AFP regarding the allegation that the PA had withheld the tape from the police. The PA had only handled the tape “under the instruction of the U.S. attorney’s office,” he said.
Spokesman Bernard Gifford said NYPD had not pursued a criminal investigation of 9-11, having “turned it over” to the FBI.

Gifford wouldn’t say when this occurred, although Joe Valiquette of the New York office of the FBI told AFP that the federal bureau had run the investigation “from the moment it happened.”

On Aug. 2 the relatives of the 16 firefighters whose voices were identified on the tape were allowed to hear their last words in a New York City hotel. The families were first required to sign a statement prepared by lawyers that they would not disclose what was said on the tape.

Despite the fact that the contents of the tape are being kept secret, the Times article says, “Only now, nearly a year after the attacks, are the efforts of Chief Palmer, Mr. Bucca and others becoming public. City fire officials simply delayed listening to a 78-minute tape that is the only known recording of firefighters inside the towers.”

While Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta said he had not known the tape existed until “very recently,” both the Times and CNN err in claiming that the NYFD is the agency behind the extreme secrecy.
“The Fire Department has forbidden anyone to discuss the contents publicly on the ground that the tape might be evidence in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the man accused of plotting with the hijackers,” the Times said.

When AFP asked the NYFD why the only conversations between firefighters engaged at the scene of the crash had to be kept secret because of Moussaoui, who was in prison in Minnesota at the time, the spokesman replied, “Take it up with the Department of Justice.”

Asked about the numerous reports by eyewitnesses, including firefighters, of explosions inside the towers before they collapsed, Mike Logrin, spokesman for the NYFD, said, “We’re pretty sure there weren’t bombs in the building.”

On Sept. 11 the British Broadcasting Corp. (BBC) interviewed one of its New York-based reporters, Steve Evans, who was in the second tower when it was hit.
“I was at the base of the second tower, the second tower that was hit,” Evans said. “There was an explosion—I didn’t think it was an explosion—but the base of the building shook. I felt it shake . . . then when we were outside, the second explosion happened and then there was a series of explosions. . . . We can only wonder at the kind of damage—the kind of human damage—which was caused by those explosions—those series of explosions,” he said.

Evans is a professional journalist and although his observations of explosions in the second tower should be taken into account, they are not. Numerous eyewitnesses reported also seeing or hearing explosions.

Valiquette of the FBI told AFP that he had not “heard anything” about reports of explosions in the building and that he had “never heard any discussion of it” in the FBI’s New York office.

When AFP asked the NYFD why the only conversations between firefighters engaged at the scene of the crash had to be kept secret because of Moussaoui, who was in prison in Minnesota at the time, the spokesman replied, “Take it up with the Department of Justice.”
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Now this: "The time to consume the jet fuel can be reasonably computed. At the upper bound, if one assumes that all 10,000 gallons of fuel were evenly spread across a single building floor, it would form a pool that would be consumed by fire in less than 5 minutes"
Quote from the FEMA report into the collapse of WTC's One and Two (Chapter Two).
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In fact, let's listen to what a few eyewitnesses have to say:
Here are statements from three eye-witnesses that provide evidence that the heating due to the jet fuel was indeed minimal.
Donovan Cowan was in an open elevator at the 78th floor sky-lobby (one of the impact floors of the South Tower) when the aircraft hit. He has been quoted as saying: "We went into the elevator. As soon as I hit the button, that's when there was a big boom. We both got knocked down. I remember feeling this intense heat. The doors were still open. The heat lasted for maybe 15 to 20 seconds I guess. Then it stopped."

Stanley Praimnath was on the 81st floor of the South Tower: "The plane impacts. I try to get up and then I realize that I'm covered up to my shoulder in debris. And when I'm digging through under all this rubble, I can see the bottom wing starting to burn, and that wing is wedged 20 feet in my office doorway."

Ling Young was in her 78th floor office: "Only in my area were people alive, and the people alive were from my office. I figured that out later because I sat around in there for 10 or 15 minutes. That's how I got so burned."
Neither Stanley Praimnath nor Donovan Cowan nor Ling Young were cooked by the jet fuel fire. All three survived.
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Did you know that a couple of firefighters who were a distance from thebuilding said that they saw heard and saw flaring explosions that went around the building like a belt?

But back to the point, if there were a raging inferno in the tower, that means that no one could have survived in an environment that was melting steel--or even half that temperature. So, now that you understand that steel core structures don't crumble, allowing for a near free-fall to occur, and that they weren't even near melting, how will this change your opinion?

 

Now, given what we now know about the real temperature inside the tower just before collapse, what is your explanation for the impossible collapse?

The 9/11 Commission solved that dilemma by simply denying the existence of the core columns:

Core Denial

Establishing the true nature of the core structures is of great importance given that the most widely read document on the World Trade Center attack -- the 9/11 Commission Report -- denies their very existence, claiming the towers' cores were "hollow steel shaft:"

Now, why do you suppose they would print such misinformation?

 

I think the answer to that is that the Commission knew damn well that no such collapse could have taken place unless they marginalized the core columns considerably. I mean, that's the only reason I can come up with as to why they would deliberately lie about it. I say "lie" because it's pretty hard to believe that it was a mere oversight . . .

 

How does one edit live footage?????????

 

Got to edit out the big flying balls , lol . The big flying space balls . I bet the reptile shapeshifters sent them . Bastards , I knew it ! It takes some big balls to use big balls , to bowl down buildings . And then "edit" them out to look like planes .