How dumb can they be?

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by unfocusedanakin, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    See what the war on drugs does.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PD5h2VyYE"]Mark Kirk comments on the dangers of "Kush" - YouTube
     
  2. broony

    broony Banned

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    2lbs of super pot for 12 Grand? 12 Grand?! Get the fuck outta here....
     
  3. PurpByThePound

    PurpByThePound purpetrator

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    these people are fucking retarded. super pot called "kush" lmao

    it only takes like 5 seconds to find out what "kush" is and that it isn't this 'super pot'

    also because it sells for the same amount as crack the punishment should be the same? wtf?????? so if we start to sell eggs for the same price as crack...

    all of a sudden the value increases criminality?? that's about the dumbest shit i have ever heard.
     
  4. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Super pot? Is that what Clark Kent hotboxes a phone booth with and emerges...

    Stonerman!?
     
  5. *randy*

    *randy* Member

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    At this point I stop finding things like this funny I just sigh inwardly at their ignorance, however great post some of us got a good laugh. It simply seems like some bullshit to further increase cannabis legislation
     
  6. tuesdaystar

    tuesdaystar Interneter

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    kush is the most commercial word
    the beesters of modern medical kb
    that's just an ad
     
  7. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    The war on drugs had a rather troubling- if comical beginning. It seems that William Randolph Hearst, who was a big man in media circles of the day owned a big stake in timber- the resource end of paper manufacturing and in the 30's a means of cheaply manufacturing paper using hemp was developed which threatened Mr. Hearst's investment so he used his influence to produce and spread wildly exaggerated propaganda about the supposed effects of "marihuana" to solidify grassroots paranoia about the plant and those who chose to smoke it in order to get laws passed criminalizing its cultivation.

    Hearst also held valuable patents related to the chemical process in paper's manufacture that would have been rendered worthless and obsolete- so he had a very deeply vested interest in the criminalization of hemp. Add to that the fact that he was deeply racist which was pretty normal for that day and age so the task of whipping up a racist and paranoid frenzy about the evils of this supposedly dangerous weed was child's play

    We ask "how dumb can they be?" and the question becomes "how dumb do they think we are?". Just watch and take in just how stupid we've collectively proven ourselves to be. Considering that this is the foundation on which the current war on drugs is built and ask yourself upon taking this in whether to expect that we'll ever be taken seriously without some drastic and collective action at the "grass" roots level.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLLLTntnqjk&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7HT7kmfMFs&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XplOY-DJZhU&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuMG0eZ28S0&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITYCb08olzg&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQCR_aqEEaU&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 6
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSc6551N3-Q&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMsZoIPl3U&list=PL948E5BE8C78727D8"]Reefer Madness 8

    This was the actual propaganda put out to cultivate public support to establish marijuana as dangerous drug in need of criminalization. It may be humorous to think that the purpose of producing the film was a were dead serious campaign. But the fact that it was successful in inspiring a series of laws that effectively cemented wood as a paper source and perpetuated a mainstay of manufacture that killed many rivers and marred the environment shows how the general population has proven again and again that it is a rich source of useful fools in helping those who have anything but our best interests at heart.

    Some interesting reading.
     
  8. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Add to the above the fact that any criminalization of a popular substance is a cash cow for law enforcement and the legal community in general and you will see exactly what's at stake on the political end of things and why we will probably never see full legalization. The repeal of prohibition would have meant a decrease in revenue for the justice industry so weed criminalization took its place.

    It underscores the almost certainty that the relatively innocuous effects of marijuana when used to try and justify its supporting legalization has fallen on deaf ears. Activism in the classic sense uses the wrong strategy to get through to the establishment. The only thing they will ever heed is money... not logic.
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    +rep for that, but it wouldn't let me.....
     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    To me it seems important to assess what we're actually dealing with and act accordingly if we have a specific objective (legalization).

    For the longest I've operated on the premise that officials believed what they were putting out there for public consumption to justify policies and legislation but the older I've become and the more information I've been able to process the more the picture has changed for me. The mere disconnect that stated intentions and public face is put on government action has from the effect of it inspired a growing sense of non sequitur... that is it doesn't follow.

    For instance, justifying the intensification of the war on drugs in order to make the streets safe for the children has all the ingredients of propaganda slop for the pathetic, contemptible sheep. It draws a simplistic correlation between removing "dangerous criminals" from the streets and the streets being safer and it uses children as a sort of political pawn as we are deeply conditioned to not dare oppose anything that is sold as being for their benefit... yet it can almost certainly be shown that the intensification of such efforts not only make the streets more dangerous but it encourages the for profit justice system to warehouse small time offenders with hardened criminals who can offer pointers on how to commission more serious crimes likely needed for survival once the person gets out- because who the hell is going to hire an ex-con?

    In refining the small time offender to a more hardened element has the longer term effect of making the streets more dangerous. The sad fact is that government officials are not stupid and quite likely understand this very well- but I'm willing to bet that if the truth were to come out, safer streets and the well being of people in general couldn't be further from the true objectives which almost certainly on maintaining an economic status quo and perpetuating a need for law enforcement and lawyers as well as ensuring that the criminal warehousing system remains the cash cow that it is- at taxpayers expense.

    So- to approach the pro-legalization question from the stance of convincing lawmakers that marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol for example, will at best inspire some adjustment to the rhetoric that is produced for the purpose of placating the "stupid" population that they're being heeded but not produce any meaningful change in legal direction because there's a pretty good chance that many who are dead set against relaxing the laws already know that weed is relatively innocuous- making the argument effectively beside the point- which is to perpetuate revenue flows.

    As cynical as it is, the best chance at effecting legalization with the government we have is to ensure that the right people make more money off it than they already make off its criminalization. Otherwise the government needs to be radically changed... and IMO there are far better reasons to wipe the proverbial slate clean than legalizing pot, but it is a part of the list of systemic injustices that most people are oblivious to- albeit willingly so.
     

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