Bad Trip - Hospitalized - My confession

Nothings changed much to be honest. She just worries more when I go out with friends or to parties. We had a talk about my drug use and all that... told them I wouldn't do any drugs from that day on. Pretty much true, stopped psychedelics, RCs, and weed but I still do MDMA when I go to raves (once a month). When I was just getting into the bad trip and I was thinking about what kind of drugged out loser does this to themselves the night before thanksgiving alone in his basement it really changed my view on how/why I was using drugs.

But I would like to trip again... maybe in a year or two and with better conditions.

 

Some self-reflection is good. Certainly, set/setting is important. As you know better now. Let me offer this if I may... do just that, take a long hard think about drugs and what part they've had in your life and what part you want them to play in the future. Psychedelics are amazing substances and have improved the life of people immensely. But as you learned, respect is important. They aren't toys. A little distance from your experience, thoughtfulness about your life and where you want it to go, and maybe if you decide to, your next experience will be wonderful. Regardless of what you decide, best wishes to you. :sunny:

 

I don't see it as bad advice, since it's not really advice at all. It is a good observation about psychedelics though. I think it takes pushing the boundaries to really have the breakthrough experience that is possible. I don't suggest it to anyone who isn't well experienced, but I think to get the full impact of these psychedelics you should just go all out at least once and really let yourself go completely.

 

quite the risk-taker you are

 

Thanks for the post was very entertaining.

I learned that drugs are silly.

 

Atmosphere and mind-set are key! Also, electronics are bad.

My best friend had a very similar experience, except she was with me (I was sober) and I knew not to call the cops/ambulance because I'm not her step dad. it did make me realize WHY some people call 911 in that situation. What you described sounds so incredibly similar to what she later described to me in nearly every way!

She's older than you and has WAY more tripping experience... The other funny thing was that all she had was 2 hits (I've seen her take 7 or more and/or mix it with a bunch of other substances and complain about not tripping hard enough!).

Sounds like you both were astral projecting. Usually in astral projection you're in a sleep-paralysis state, but both you and her physically acted out the motions of what you were experiencing.

New respect for LSD for sure.

She has since tried half a hit and was fine. She sees it as a fond memory now! It's all about atmosphere and remembering you're in control of it all.

Something I enjoy doing while solo tripping, (I make sure friends will come by later if I'm alone at any point) is practicing controlling my hallucinations. It sounded like you were totally unprepared for full-on visuals. Don't let them freak you out. They're the best part! I noticed the pattern on my carpet was moving one day, so I sat there concentrating on increasing movement, then decreasing movement and trying to make it stop completely. Once I know I've snapped myself back into reality, I'll turn on the hallucinations again like a dial! This will give you a sense of control like nothing else! Maybe someday you'll be able to concentrate hard enough to hallucinate sober. it's a fun game.

PS it's so nice when people make easy-to-read posts like this one! You tell an awesome story!

 

I could NOT read that entire OP but I'm pretty sure your problem is you were alone in your room

I mean that's alotta flippin for one person alone in a room

 

Certainly, and that is the basis of McKenna's quote.

Neither would I. That's what I was saying.

No disagreement there. However it is reckless and irresponsible to suggest or encourage someone to dose as much or high as they can as if it's a game.
And if that point isn't driven home by the OP, I dunno what is.

If all you've ever ridden is a mini-bike, I don't give you a 250hp motogp bike and say 'have fun kid'. That is reprehensible behavior and bad karma. Think what you like, it's all good. But that kind of shit gives psychedelics a bad name.
Here's two more people that are going to rail about the dangers of LSD... "its true cause I saw it happen to my kid, he had a "bad trip" and had to go to the hospital."
And just like the stories in the media recently about 'bad lsd' in Aus, the 'bath salts' and the "designer drugs that 'mimic' lsd"... there will be no context given, no conversation about safety, what these things are, just "drugs messed up my kid".
And to suggest "take lots", from a safe distance without having to witness the results directly or suffer the possible negative consequences personally, is bullshit.

 

Great story man.

I somehow think this cold have been an amazing experience of only you would have paid more attention to set and setting. For example if you would have done this away from your parents house, and if you had a sitter to comfort you when your thoughts got out of hand, or to make sure you get dressed proprely if you wanted to go outside, it sounds like it could have been a life-changing spiritual experience.

I guess this is a reminder of how delicate the psychedelic state can be. I hope you still keep some of the positives with you.

 

Set and setting are everything!!!
If there is ever any debate on weather its a good time to trip, its probaly a bad time to trip.

 

Experience is also a big part. I have a trip report on here describing where I took almost the exact same doses of each and it was also only my second or third trip, it was also after I got home from the funeral of a good friend (I was 18 at the time). Luckily I had someone with me who took the same dose.

I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing you but that could have been really beautiful for you. Just be more careful next time.

Here's the link...http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=312316&f=118

 

wow.. sounds..scary..

 

i read the entire thing.

one thing missing from your lesson is dosage! you took WAY too much. abusing mushrooms is a grave mistake. mushrooms are a medicine, and when you have work to do you do the work (sickness, fear, paranoia). next time remember that gluttony is wrong and you must always respect the drugs that you take. also, having a friend around to take care of you and guide your trip would have helped you a lot and you probably would have had a more meaningful experience.

don't be ashamed of what happened, just learn from your mistakes and move on.

Thanks for sharing

 

Oh my goodness. I could totally picture someone tripping out hardcore & breaking shit while attacking a table. Hilarious! Nice one man! Thanks for sharing. eace:

 

:2thumbsup:

 

If that's all you took away from his story, I don't think you should be taking drugs.

 

when i was 16, i took a 3x1-1/4'' chunk of white blotter with two graphite lines drawn on to separate into 3 "hits".. I didnt find out until later in the week that it was supposed to be 4-way blotter =P

a couple hours in, some events happened that led to me falling to the floor, where the physical part of me began involuntarily thrashing and wailing and gnashing its teeth, and my friends were smart enough to call my parents instead of the cops =)

luckily, i managed to keep my clothes on until I got home...

I came to naked in my living room, wrestling my dad, surrounded by several handfuls of potting soil that i'd pulled out of a house plant =\

I was grounded for a whole two and a half weeks!


I accidentally took too much and it kicked my ass, all in all i feel it was a good learning experience though.

please trip responsibly!

 

Dude... I take it back. Setting hasn't got a thing to do with it once you've had that experience once.
Don't do psychedelics again. My friend got cocky after her first freak out and thought she could do it again.
Bad fucking idea! She had a good trip the next time, but the time after that... Fuck... She was unable to function for 3+ days and still having major affects for another full day or more.
She was brought to the hospital, missed 3 days from work, and traumatized her friends and family.
She was incredibly violent and paranoid, hearing voices telling her we were trying to kill her, not knowing where she was, putting herself and others in danger, etc for a very long time. Just totally in another world. It came on so fast (an hour after the dose) this time, and lasted WAY longer!! If it ever happens again, I don't think she'll come back from it. Watching it happen has made me swear off all drugs for good. I never thought I'd say that. Ever. Especially about acid.

I am done.

 

Just a little update since this happened....

I hadn't smoked weed since I had my bad trip. Now it seems whenever I smoke weed I get morphing visuals and feel almost exactly the same I did that night (the anxious parts at least). It goes away after about an hour, but the first hour is heart racing anxiety to the extreme with obvious visuals. I would be trying to read a line of text within a paragraph and all the other lines around the one I was focusing on would wave and move apart. My eyes wiggle back and forth nonstop... it just sucks. I don't have any HPPD normally, but when I smoke it brings it out so much it's crazy. Sooo yeah, never going to smoke weed again it seems.

 

Interesting, you are not the only one who has had psychedelic type visuals from weed following a strong hallucinogenic trip. Weed's primary pharmalogical action is different than that of psychedelics but they really must overlap somewhere on periphary neurotransmitters or perhaps weed might sort of falsely trigger other neurotransmitters for some of us.