Christianity and Rastafari

Discussion in 'Rastafari' started by peace_sells, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. peace_sells

    peace_sells Member

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    What's the difference?
     
  2. Crush

    Crush Member

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    For as far as know, Rastafari is a rewriting of the bible.

    Hmm, I had some stuff here, but I'm not too sure about them. You should check out www.bobmarley.com in the life section is a great deal about rastafari.
     
  3. Ash_Freakstreet

    Ash_Freakstreet Hmm.... GROOVY!

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    how would you describe ratsafari in one sentence?
     
  4. MellowPsychedelia

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    A rewriting of the bible?? no, no. They beleive that christ has already come a second time (some of them don't beleive Jesus was christ so they may call it a first time). That some it up, that and all life can be traced backt o the promised land etheopia.

    Peace
     
  5. thumontico

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    Poor bastards, their promised land is Ethiopia.
     
  6. peace_sells

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    so the only difference is that Haile Selassie I was the second/first messiah... bah, no I'm confused because Im sure it says in the Ible that the second time the messiah comes that (not quoted from here) crazy thing will happen bla bla bla.. if the second one has already come what happens now? im so confused!
     
  7. reefer121

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    i read or heard that rastas only believe the first testement while christians believe the first and second. im probably wrong tho so dont listen to me
     
  8. Peppy

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    Ible, sounds like wannabee speak to me, many rastas read from the Pibi, (black mans translation of the bible, combating the catholic misinturpretation) but there are many different beleifs of rastafari some more jewish others more heavily christian (mainly Ethiopian Orthodox), i think if you gonna call your self rastafarian then you should really beleive in christ, 'cause if you beleive in Haile Selassie I in calling him that you are acepting the christ, since the name means power of the trinity, only the very ill informed beleive Haile Selassie I to be the man of Revelation, although all wait upon the apocylyps as that is another main part of the faith, but with the apocalyps shall come the one whos name is unknow (some times refered to as SHILOH due to old testament references)
     
  9. peace_sells

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    how can it be wannabee speak quite a few religions use that not just rastafari e.g. islam. Also, if I ever do a "wannabee speak" e.g. downpressor, it's not because I "wannabee" a rasta it's out of respect.

    Not all rastas read from the Pibi, and if the pibi is just another version of the bible how can we trust that? I dont get how we can trust it being rewritten and not just trust the original. Like I looked at a youth bible the other day and it says something in the front like "some words may have been lost in translation" so i put it down because how can I trust that? my rasta friend said that truly rastafari was about loving Jah nothing to do with these books and "what you have to do to be a rasta" type things but I lost contact with him so I can't ask him again. I asked him before and he said "people try to say rasta is a form of christianity but it's not" and he never really told me why.
    Peppy if you are so clued up on this subject then should you have not thought twice before calling it "rastafarian" or are you just ignorant to the fact is offends people?
    (I'm sorry I'm in a really bad mood)
     
  10. naked_ape

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    Eh? Ethiopia is the most fertile part of Africa, the whole of the Egyptian empire was formed on the fertile mud that washed from ethiopia in the flood season up the red nile and onto The Nile's floodplains.

    Ethiopia is green and lush. Although there have been famines of late due to desertification i do believe?
     
  11. prophet7

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    I and I do not one sentence but, just ONE word to describe Rastafari :

    Rastafari = Righteousness

    One Love
    prophet7
     
  12. prophet7

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    Who say that ? Rasta ?

    I and I promised land is Mount Zion next to I and I Father the Allmighty GOD !
    You are the ones who are the poor "bastards" - taking a religion that was not yours from the beginning and confusing it up !

    Besides, it has been prooven that Ithiopia is the beginning of civilization. The earliest remains of man have been found there ! Does not your Bible say "as it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end" !?

    One Love
    prophet7
     
  13. goldmund

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    Whoever said that about Ethiopia is grossly misinformed about her past and current potential. Back to the original question...
    Rastafari differs greatly from person to person. Anyone can say that they are a rasta, and because there is no one widely accepted orthodox, or mainstream, rastafarian structure/hierarchy, etc. there is no one to really tell them otherwise. Most would loosely agree on the "preeminence" of Haile Sellasie, most refering to him as the returned messiah, some as an "icon" of Christ. Some, influenced by more eastern beliefs, see him as an avatar. Some call themselves "rasta" based soley on their lifestyle, natty dreads, etc. without a firm opinion (I know I get hell for that :) )on His Majesty whatsoever.
    As far as the Piby goes, I have ever even seen one. To say that this book, written by a Mason and a person who ended up calling himself christ, and says all sorts of crazy things is the center of faith for even most Rastas, I think is off, but that's just my experience. Most firmly believe in both the Old and New Testement (perhaps with a slight bent, or inclusion of, the OT; more so than most Christians), but question certain things in the King James Version, leading to disputes among rastas on some things. Most would like a full translation of the Ethiopian Bible which includes many books that were lost out of our bibles in the West after the Oriental Orthodox (the so-called "Monophysite" Churches) were excommunicated from the Roman and Byzantine Rite Churches in 451 CE.
    I'd like to throw in more about Bobos, esp. with their prominence in dancehall, but we'll leave that for now.
    Blessings Ones...
     
  14. HuckFinn

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    this is absolutely true. this is why his funeral was officiated by the Abba Yeshak and the EOC. I wonder if this conversion took place before or after he found out he had cancer.
     
  16. HuckFinn

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    I suspect that cancer had the humbling effect of causing him to reconsider his need for a savior, which he had defiantly rejected in "Get Up, Stand Up."
     
  17. goldmund

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    I don't think he rejected the notion of savior, or even Christ Huck. I think think he rejected/questioned the spoon-fed Anglican/Western Christian version.
     
  18. MellowPsychedelia

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    He embraced Christ and Selassie. Though I am not sure if he rejected the rasta way before death. But during his life as a rasta he also accepted christ.
     
  19. goldmund

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    He had to reject the belief that Haile Sellasie was Christ in order to be baptized by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. Coincidently, Rita had been a Christian in the EOC since 1972. Peter Tosh was also baptized, but was kicked out for his loud mouth :) . Seriously, he had this thing with swearing at anyone, including Church officials, etc. I am not sure whether or not he was given an Orthodox burial.
     
  20. sm0key42o8

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    Marley did not recieve treatment for the cancer at first b/c he felt JAH but it there and JAH wanted it there. It was only at the end he was convinced to get treated, but sadly it was to late...
     

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