god doesn't want us to believe in god

But we do, just not through procreation! lol We all create eachother, even in gestation!

 

My original impulse is conception not gestation.

 

Couldn't be otherwise kid.

The consciousness of our impulses tends towards joy overall, not only in feeling but as originating idea.

 

Initially I did not conceive myself, I was conceived.

 

Initially you did conceive yourself, which is not to say you weren't already conceived.
What is not initiated is only impulse until it is.

 

I am part of a magnanimous intent.

 

If it's your own you're talking about, I don't doubt it for a moment. Is it the hardest part of magnanimity to accept the credit? lol

 

How do I account for gratitude?

 

It's free.

 

I mean why am I grateful?

 

Because it's freeing to be so.

 

It comes to me through recognition.

 

Silly..
God did not create us.. he made the laws for a new universe.
Thus hundreds of laws 'just seem to work together' to result in anti entropic systems.. life
This topic has been raging for centuries.
I have a large list of the fallacy of religion. and a short list of the evidence for a designer.

I believe in a 'design'
Which underpins belief. Science .. reason has found the evidence.
thats what its for.
Religion has become a nothing.It is fantasy, and bad fantasy at that.

I spent years on this forum earlier in century. promoting pretty much what you have said above.
From determinism and gods plan to age of 'this' universe.

be well

occam

 

I spent 4 years on this thread/forum philosophy and religion.. years back.
The most important posts were determinism.. but.. i will waver because one of the aphorisms 'I' wrote was on this topic.

It was during a battle with several over creationism.

I said.. "If god created the world in 4000~ bc.. why did he create it to look like it evolved."

Why the fossils?
Why the sand?
Why the sea mammals that have , like whales.. 5 fingers
and on and on.. a list of a million contradictions.

But We are told by the good book.
That all that is . false.

Prill

 

How did that work out and what have done for me lately?

The question becomes if there is a design, is there a role for will?

 

god is the nature .

 

I'm an atheist, but for the sake of argument, let's say God does exist. If God exists, he isn't very fair. Supposedly you go to Hell if you don't believe in him, right? Well then why doesn't God help everyone believe? It's hardly fair that some people have been presented with enough evidence to believe and others have not. I can't help what I believe or don't believe. It's not my choice. I can't perform doublethink. So all the atheists are basically screwed and they're all going to Hell just because God didn't make himself as clear to them as he did to religious people? Sounds cruel to me.

 

silly you . i meant that the only ''god'' is the nature system . she is extremely generousness and friendly . but she can destroy everything she wants . she gave us birth , but she can take it without permission .

 

^^ I wasn't referring to your post about nature, but rather the original post. Just adding my two cents about god and whether he does/doesn't want us to believe in him.

 

First of all, if God exists, that doesn't necessarily mean there's a Hell that people go to if they don't believe. Most pagan religions didn't believe in Hell, and the Jews didn't either until they became a Persian protectorate and took over Persian Zoroastrian ideas about Satan and Hell. Many Progressive Christians like me reject the concept of Hell in the literal sense.

I believe that hell, like heaven, is something people (the unfortunate ones) experience on earth during their lifetimes--a state of mind rather than a physical place. In Dante's conceptualization, the souls who are in hell are there by their own choice, and stay there because they won't acknowledge their responsibility for getting there. Even Satan is there because he's stuck in a puddle of ice--in the inferno! The ice got there from the cooling caused by the flapping of his wings. How to get out? Stop flapping the wings! But he was so determined to get away from God he couldn't bring himself to stop flapping. That's just a fictional portrayal, I know, but it conveys a truth metaphorically. Hell is a bad attitude. It's a state of mind characterized by a misperception of reality--the conviction that somebody else is to blame for misery brought about by our own actions, and that we can help ourselves by lashing out at others or whining about our problems instead of doing something constructive about them. People in hell make themselves and everybody around them miserable. And they fit Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing and expecting a different result.