Common mental disorders

thats why you change your way of thinking....

 

Of course it's all in your head, where else would mental problems come from?

 

Clearly, you have never worked or been around people with serious mental illness. I'm not talking about fucking ADD. I mean people who try to kill themselves because the voices in their head tell them to. 6 year old kids who pour gasoline on and light the family dog on fire because they "wanted to see what a dead dog looks like." People who can't even dress themselves they're so far out of it.

It's completely irrational to see one or two diagnosis going over-diagnosed and then leap to the conclusion that it's all bullshit and we all can cure ourselves by meditation and weed and listening to the Beatles. Give me a break.

 

its crazy though, do they ever correct?

 

I can't tell you how many times I have heard people say this as a joke...

I see how it can be thought of as funny by someone who doesn't understand...

However, it is still just as obnoxious sounding and insulting as the first time someone said it to me...

If it wasn't meant as a joke, then it was just stupidity.

 

In my post I was referring to common mental disorders such as depression and anxiety. I think these can be overcome by diet, exercise, sunshine, thought pattern, and a variety of other simple solutions.

I think psychology has allowed people to wallow in these disorders and use them as an excuse to avoid living life.

I think, in regards to more serious mental illnesses that you mentioned, the study of psychology has done society a great service in allowing more people to better understand people previously written off as mad.

I guess in conclusion I think understanding is a mixed bag

 

oh yeah, when it comes to mental illness, it's as easy as "snap out of it", just like a diabetic can think their way out of diabetes.

really? REALLY?

 

i was talking about disorders or whatever term. bi-polar depression suicidal i was diagnosed with it all and they wanted to shove me so full of pills id vomit so instead of killing myself i tried lucy and changed my way of thinking... im fucking happy

 

well, not really. a lot of mental illnesses are genetic, so one family is likely to have several while another family will probably have none.

 

one of my Dxs is bipolar. i know what you mean about shoving pills. for some, they work fine. for me, not so much.

i'm happy you're happy. i'm happy that you were able to change your way of thinking. it's not that easy for some of us.

AND I MEAN IT - I'M NOT BEING SARCASTIC HERE - I'M BEING SINCERE!

:sunny:

 

im sorry and both my parents can be real unhappy people and my mom didnt want me at the time and passed on some things buut WE ALL CHANGE

 

In milder forms of depression and anxiety, these things may help. In Major Depressive Disorder, Bipolar disorder, suicidal ideation...no. They're not enough. If people can find a solution to their own mental health issues that's not destructive and works for them, then I'm all for it. However, this is not always feasible. Most people with mental illness have a very difficult time even accepting or believing that they have a disorder, let alone actually receiving help for that disorder--primarily because of societal stigma against those receiving mental health care, which is driven by the attitude that you express that people should be able to deal with it on their own, or with natural treatments.

Contrary to popular belief, most people don't "wallow" in anything, and if they do, it's certainly not encouraged in the mental health field. And most mental health programs (the good ones anyway) use talk therapy along with drugs when necessary. Most depressed people don't need much of an "excuse" to avoid living life--they're already not living life because their life situation currently sucks, sometimes for reasons not quite so obvious, so "living" their life the way it is isn't going to help anything. And living one's life is highly subjective anyway.

No one in psychiatry is saying people HAVE to take medication the rest of their lives, or even at all. But when the condition begins to affect the person's ability to function on a day to day basis, you need to intervene. Just like if I get an occasional tension headache, I'm not going to go to the doctor. But if I have debilitating migraines everyday, then I'll go get treatment for it. And I should be treated for it--I shouldn't be told to go eat right and exercise and that's all we're going to do for you. Mental illnesses have a biological basis, the same as physical ones. And just like with physical problems, mis/over-diagnosis can occur. But there is certainly nothing wrong in getting professional help if that's what helps you.

I'm not saying being mentally ill is an excuse for being a whiny dick, I'm just saying if someone seeks medical treatment for it, they should be treated and shouldn't be made to feel inadequate.

 

Here is a quote from one of my journal entries... I've cleaned it up a bit for the overly sensitive...

 

why does anyone have to have anything "wrong" with them?
i can feel peoples energies and what thier getting at even if theyre unable to "talk"

 

very true!

most of my mom's family on her dad's side have some type of mental "issue".

many of the men in the family self-medicate (alcoholics).

many of the women are trying to deal with moderate to major anxiety or depression by taking meds.

then there's me, the bah bah black sheep.

hubby's family only has one mom and daughter who have anxiety issues (while the men are alcoholics but that's a whole other issue)

 

Yes, your empathy is coming through really clearly...

 

some people are truly disabled by mental illness. when "different than the norm" is debilitating, something is WRONG!

 

1) Wrong in this context means it's causing you to lose your ability to function in your day to day life. Nobody is saying anyone "has" to have anything wrong with them. All I'm saying is that some people have a very difficult time functioning because of the biological processes of their particular brain.

2) WTF is that supposed to mean? You give acid heads a bad name. Come back and join the real world when you get a chance.

I've said it before and I will say it yet again: JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS OR IS TRUE FOR YOU DOESN'T MAKE IT THAT WAY FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!!

Why is this such a difficult concept for people to understand??

 

goodnight freaky hippies - keep on keeping it civil...

 

Medicine isn't neutral. If there's something wrong with you, all that is saying is the body isn't performing how it's expected to perform, with those expectations informed by social and scientific views. If that's understood, then it's not hard to accept the reality of depression and anxiety. I could easily imagine a time when an anxious nervous system would be an advantage, and so would not be considered dysfunctional.