2c-e, 2c-i or 25I-NBOMe ?

I was wondering which of this group would be most recommended for some research? I have acid,mesc, shrooms, and a couple strong RC's and Salvia as far as my psychonaut travels. I respect anything I do by learning all I can first. Thank you if you can share your experience.

 

2c-e all the way! First psychedelic I tried and I had a great time.
2c-e is definitely deeper than 2c-i and general concensus would put it as a better first timer
I've heard good things about 25i-NBOMe, though, but I would start with the 2c-x's and move into the PEAs later...

 

25I is very potent, it would be a little easier to start with 2c-i or e.

CE is much more deep and psychedelic comapred to CI. Many people get very deep on I as well, but E is generally regarded to be more intense.

 

I will give the c a try. I was able to Google a good source easily. Thanks fellow pnauts.

 

I think all the 2c-x's are also PEAs.

 

no way man start with a nbome drug ;p
2ci and 2ce i think are overrated
25i im having a hard time saying it worse then acid.
i want to hear more about nbdb

 

no way man start with a nbome drug ;p
2ci and 2ce i think are overrated
25i im having a hard time saying it worse then acid.
i want to hear more about nbdb

 

Hello! I have a question regarding an intention of use statement. I found a site that appears to be rather solid and I don't want to mess up my shot at having my intention of use statement being accepted. I am considering going with stating that I intend to use it to make an isopropyl alcohol solution using 2c-x to try to eradicate the lesser and greater peach tree borers that are attacking some of the stone fruit (peach, apricot,plum, cherry, etc.) trees that I have in my care by dipping a piece of wire in the solution and then digging the borer eggs out of of the branches with said wire, as I had a friend in the Horticultural field recommend this. Essentially using it as a pesticide/insecticide. Any thoughts, information, insight, etc. would be GREATLY appreciated. I was also considering including that I am a master gardener (which is true).

 

I have never encountered a site that asked what I intended to research. Honestly they would be covering their own end more if they did not ask. Have you used SOS? The less you say about yourself the better. Mentioning your a gardener will not help you.

 

@ufnocusedandakin: I have checked them out on SOS and read nothing but glowing words about the site. I am not a member of SOS but would like to be. I'm hoping that I'm able to find someone willing to send me an invite to SOS so that I can join and have full access to SOS. I figured that the intended use statement was solely to cover their end. Do you think just stating that using it for pesticide/insecticide purposes would be sufficient? The site states that if they feel your statement is too vague then they will ask you to elaborate. I would really like to avoid any elaboration if at all possible. I've heard of people simply saying that it is for private research that is being independently funded, but personally I think that sounds a bit vague (and could possibly be construed as a bit too sketchy by the site owner(s)).

 

SOS is a good resource, so I would not worry, IMO they are probably legit. Like I said no one has asked me. All you can do is try, it will probably be ok. There is really no illegal use for these other then perhaps human consumption.

 

@unfocusedandakin: Thank you! This helps me greatly.

 

@unfocusedandakin: Pretty cool picture by the way! Where did you find it?

 

i wouldn't say i was going to use it as a pesticide. that would potentially contaminate the environment and the fruit you intend to protect. then humans end up eating it...

say that you are using it as a GCMS standard. you are fragmenting unknown metabolites in a mass spectrometer after separation by gas chromatography. the chemical you obtain from them will serve as the known compound, to which the unknowns will be compared.

 

I found it in the thread of another site. A German one where they were posting crazy pics, so I have no idea what it said under it. I just thought "hey there's a trippy pic" lol

Glad I could help with your research

 

@ Porkstock: Even if I stated that it wouldn't be sprayed, that I would be dipping a piece of hard wire in solution to dig peach tree borer eggs out of the branches effected by the borers? The fruit would not come into contact. I want to try to avoid as much lab-tech talk as possible. Partially because I'm not a chemist and partially because testing ANYTHING by means of GCMS is EXXXXXXPENSIVE. Not trying to be combative or anything, I just want to make sure I get stuff right before I submit my statement as I only have one chance. How about as a pesticide on ornamental fruit trees? There's no fruit on them to be consumed and the chems I am wanting to purchase are not on the EPA's list of things that are banned or would harm the environment. I already checked that end of things out. Please let me know your thoughts.

What you said sounds good, just a bit techie for the average Joe, even if the intended use statement is automatically renewed each time an order is placed (which with this one site it is). As with anything of this nature I want to avoid raising any suspicion on either end of things. As before ANY help, insight, advice, etc. is GREATLY appreciated.

 

@unfocusedandakin:Right on! It is pretty trippy! I really like the perspective.

 

fine, don't use my statement. i'll save it for if i ever have to use one

i don't have any real advice, as i've never had to provide an intention of use statement. say what you want, but to ME, using it to kill pests sounds sketchy. if they are asking you to provide a reason, they don't want to sell it to the average joe. if you have access to a lab with a GCMS machine, using it costs about as much as the electricity to power it.

i would try to use it for something "analytical." maybe thin layer chromatography, where you separate chemicals in a moving solvent. just say you are comparing molecular weights or fragmentation patters of similar molecules.

 

@ Porkstock41:I see your point with the pesticide/incsectide approach. I apologize, I didn't mean get you riled. I have friends at school that have access to a nice lab. I haven't seen them for a few days. I'll talk to them and see what they think as well. What you say sounds pretty solid to me, and I am QUITE GRATEFUL for the input yourself and unfocusedandakin have given me. Once again I apologize for any offense taken as that was not my intention. I try not raise the ire of those who are trying to help me out.

 

i'm not riled. or if i am, i enjoy it.

i don't give you permission to use my statement anymore. i reserve it for my own use