Hey, I've never actually done drugs but I am interested in the idea of certain drugs (LSD, DMT, Weed) and being 16, it's probably something I'll do in the near future. But I am wondering about a few things. 1. Can someone assure me of how safe these drugs are? I understand the ''DRUGS ARE BAD!'' attitude that the government and media portray, but I want to make sure they are safe. I went on Yahoo and pretty much everybody was saying how bad it was (speaking of acid) but I wanted to ask more knowledgable people. Surely if I read up on the drug, take it in my own home with friends when I know I'm not going to be interupted and have an open mind, then I shouldn't at too much of a risk? 2. Also, how often do people tend to do drugs? I mean how bad would it to be to smoke weed once or twice a week, and then do LSD once a month? Surely that is considered quite moderate? Also will I need to increase my dosage the more times I do it? 3. Do you still have a certain degree of control when on LSD? For example could I decide to switch on my computer to play some music on iTunes? Thanks.
Yahoo is full of muppets that believe anything.. I'm gonna answer your questions in reverse, the last 2 kinda lead into the first one. 3. On lower doses of acid you've got a surprising amount of control.. you feel sober - even though you're far from it. It's a very clean and unpolluted high.. The higher your dose the more your coordination will start to diminish. 2. Hard to gauge.. different for everyone - but never underestimate psychedelics. Weed is fun, helps a lot but is very easy to abuse. A few J's a week will start to become a few J's a day if you're not careful, and then unless you're pretty damn motivated your productivity will start to fall away But that's the person, not the weed. You can still do shit, just takes a lot more to get motivated. It won't be terrible for you physically if you're tripping once a month, but your opinions and the way you think will be altered drastically. You may not notice yourself, but I've had a lot of comments from old friends about how much I've changed over the past 2 years.. Oh, and whatever is considered "quite moderate" is someone elses opinion - you've got your own noggin, so use it. Take drugs if you want, but be completely honest with yourself and know when to stop or to cut down. 1. This is where you make your own mind up. Physically, acid is perfectly safe.. mentally, it changes who you are.. you can abuse it and fuck up your social life, because suddenly everything becomes bland and uneventful compared to the infinite and unimaginable.. you can try to hide from it all, but it'll just catch up with you and kick you in the ass.. because the real infinite and unimaginable is right in front of you. But you can also use it and uncover an incredible sense of.. umm... peace, awe, self, wonder, unity and all that cliché hippy bullshit - but fuck me, once you find even a little tiny bit of those feelings you become a different person, and you realise how deep life can get beyond your little bubble of conciousness. And all of the above is determined by how high you dose, how often you dose, and the reason why you dose. The same shit applies to marijuana, but to different degrees. Basically, all of that drivel above is meaningless to you.. you can't tell if you you'll enjoy it or not until you've tried it. Just know the risks as well as the benefits.
1. Okay, so the higher you dose the more hallucinations you are likely to see and more unrealistic the trip becomes? 2. So smoking, say, 4-5 joints a week and dropping acid every month or two isn't really dangerous but can obviously change you as a person? I mean I feel like changing as a person is something that should happen as I grow older, but I'd hate to become so dependent on drugs that I started feeling isolated from family and friends and start to enjoy other things in life less. 3. I mean I want to change as a person and I've only heard positive things from people who have taken drugs but I don't want to ruin everything else around me to the point I don't quite know what I've become and that I can't enjoy other things not involving drugs. 4. I don't know if it changes anything, but my main reasons for wanting to do weed/lsd and what I would do while on it: I want to hopefully grow wiser by using it and maybe helping me to enjoy life more rather than actually trying to escape from reality, I want to enhance it through moderative drug use. I also want to use it even for inspiration musically and while tripping/getting stoned I'd probably jsut chill with friends, listen to music, play music. I dunno if that changes anything?
keep in mind that the exact same dose of almost any drug can and does affect different people in vastly different ways... there is many variables to consider..asking questions will help and i commend you.... this is why they call it ''experimenting with drugs'' my disclaimer is ''stick to weed until you are 21 minimum''
1) Lsd is safe but there are similar chems that occasionally get passed off as acid which are much less so and/or don't have the long history of use of LSD to say much about their safety profile. I don't want to give you the impression that its common to pass off other drugs as acid but rather just to make you aware it does happen. Dmt can elevate heart rate quite a bit but most any danger from these drugs comes from psychological effects to the unsound/unprepared mind. make sure your mindset is good and you're in a comfortable spot. Weed for the most part is a much less intense, easier experience but the first couple highs can be somewhat psychedelic. 3) I don't find dose the solitary factor determining your motor coordination impairment with LSD, It's not really like alcohol for me where I can say such and such dose causes me to not function. Increase in dose certainly increases the likelihood of motor impairment but as I said mindset and setting are very important with psychedelics so its easy for me to imagine being in a loud, raucous setting on a lower dose having more difficulty functioning compared to a higher dose in a more calm, peaceful setting. Most likely you will be able to turn on a computer, I enjoy playing guitar on LSD and besides short term memory impairment I play pretty well. Dmt I'd reccommend to sit or lay down for usually.
1. Umm... yes and no, can't describe it. "Hallucination" is a shit word, and so is "unrealistic" when you're talking about psychedelics. The whole thing is a paradox.. Things are more real than they've ever been before, but at the same they're twisting, morphing, erupting with colours and shit - which you wouldn't really call "real".. 2. You've gotta spend more time sober than high to get a decent gauge of where you're heading in life, and make sure the drugs aren't influencing stupid decisions. Under the influence of a drug, no matter how clear headed you think you are, you're still under the influence of a drug. 3. There is bad shit when it comes to drugs, don't kid yourself. Just be aware of it and you can prevent a lot of it from happening - but every now and then you get a kick in the bollocks, just to keep you on your toes. Have a flick through the opiates forum, the shits real. 4. Yeah man, that's what it's all about.. but the key word there is the "moderation". Have a look into some meditation techniques before your first trip by the way, it can open up so many doors for you when you take that first journey. There's a lot more to psychedelics than pretty colours and melting trees.
i'd say that smoking a few joints a week is definitely very moderate. doing lsd once a month could be moderate for a while but eventually you might want to slow it down. probably something that you would have to judge yourself. know yourself, know your body, and know your drug. being informed can make the difference. if you are concerned about not being able to enjoy things while not on drugs, then make a point to spend time doing things while not stoned. from reading your intentions it sounds like you have good intentions for using psychedelics. lsd is a tool for opening your mind, and expanding your consciousness. there is a good chance that your perception could be altered from your psychedelic experiences, but this isn't always such a bad thing. i would recomend to you to do some research about lsd on places like erowid.org, and as for smoking pot i wouldn't worry about it too much.
Most people I hang out with started those at the age of 13... No, in fact. You Aren't really at any risk other than the legalities of the drug. Most people who smoke weed are 1 of 2. They Either Smoke everyday or rarely ever. Yes, Basic motor functions are usable.
I prefer to give people plenty of information. Especially when it comes to LSD, people fuck up so hard unless they know what to expect with LSD. You picked the three drugs I know the most about. Be warned apparently I'm the boring kind of druggie, the kind on drug testing :/. Look man your 16, you deserve the truth, the government lied to you about every drug except a precious few. The only drugs no one with any sanity left in them should ever touch are: Meth Heroine(Its too awesome to do. Only way to describe it, not taking questions) PCP(Cut open you stomach and play with your intestines, that's a true story. No touch) That's All on my list, but I've been out of this community for a while you may have new drugs. LSD, DMT, and Weed. LSD...not to sound like a douche but I'm surprised none of my professors know I have flashbacks all the time in my classes. DMT, if all works out well, the reason why I'll get into med school. Its the dream chemical, its almost sickening how quick it starts and how violent it gets, its like a roller coaster that only last 15-20 minutes in reality, but I've heard of people ending their trips saying it lasted years. Weed, pff. I used to smoke out 3rd graders,(I know, I'm going to Hell, I've accepted that), before I got arrested for possession and put on drug tests. Weeds fine, learn the good dealers, train yourself to smell good weed from bad weed, get a pipe and lighter, and in my experience, don't share,(Judge all you want I was generous and that same day that person got me arrested, now I'm a 5 year clean college student studying to become a psychiatrist and researching ways to use hallucinogens to completely eliminate PTSD from someones memory. Sharing is caring, about nothing.) LSD, I'm only gonna tell you a lot so you can save time money and precious sanity, the side effects scare some people but understand if you follow the rules of dose then you'll be fine. LSD is still to this day,(unless theres another, heard of this chemical DOC, not sure what it is, not sure if I care), the LONGEST hallucinogen you will take and although meth is the longest drug, LSD feels the longest. LSD is a chemical that take a lot of tender loving care and knowledge to do right, to save you some time, there is no easy way to make LSD, just the way with growing rye plants letting them moisten up and waiting for the ergot to grow. IF you can find real LSD-25, I can almost assure you it will have strychnine in it, strychnine is a bitch, locks your muscles up and it refuses to leave your blood stream until its punished you several times. Thats the only chemical in LSD that comes back, IT DOES NOT REMAIN IN YOUR SPINE. I say LSD because I'm originally from the San Fransisco area, that and Chicago are really the only places I KNOW have LSD-25,(a.k.a. dose), everywhere else has LSA a.k.a. acid. Taking to much LSD or LSA can result in a full on perma-tripp that amount depends on the person, the drug is not weight dependent its completely dependent on the will of your psyche, largest dose of LSD-25 I've taken was 7, LSA I took 10, I'm already paying for it with tracers and multiple flashbacks, but thats also because I used to deal real LSD-25 real cheap, I'd be tripping for weeks just keeping it going until I had to stop and let my final peak come. If you've never done it before start with one, THEY ARE NOT INSTANT PLEASE DONT MAKE THE MISTAKE I DID,(my first time I did 3 of LSD-25. I was tripping for 2 days man and it wasn't that happy trip John Lennon shows you no I thought I was gonna fall through the earth) , wait one hour if nothing happened take 2, if nothing happens then go stab your dealer or take better care of your dose. LSD and all its imitators share a common weakness, they can be destroyed easily, and you wont know till you take your hits and nothing happens. Light, Heat, Air, Contact with skin, all of these can destroy LSD. Be cautious. One of my personal rules with dose is that its never a drug you save for parties, you take it the second you get it and find a babysitter fast. Flashback time! LIE: LSD flashbacks are caused when the chemical leaves your spine and releases through you body. PROOF: LSD is a delicate chemical, its so delicate some of it gets destroyed on the way down your stomach, or wherever you decide to put it... TRUTH: LSD makes your body believe its dying, which is why you trip, since each trip is a "Near-death experience" you develop a unique and week form of PTSD, flashbacks are purely mental and can be controlled. After a while they will consume you, so be careful. Last side effect of dose, tracers. Tracers are exactly what they sound like, they're a trail left behind from objects that move around you due to the fact that your brain is being slow to register whats going. You get tracers from all drugs, hallucinogens just happen to have there own trademark "Joke" tracers. You can get hallucinogenic tracers your first time tripping, or your 100th time tripping, but one you get them, their there to stay. Follow the rules of dose and you'll come out side effect free, except for the fact that you will most like become a D student once the first few side effects kick in. #1. Always on sugar, never on paper.(LSD is destroyed by touch, on sugar it absorbs in) #2. A little dab will do ya.(With the chemical LSD-25 I wouldn't venture past 3 hits, period. Yes going further up the scale will cause you to have very vivid hallucinations, but after you go past 5 you run the risk of never leaving. 3, that's it, that's all you need. Not fun enough? lock yourself in your room turn on the Beatles and dance fucker.) #3. Bases mean everything.(If the vials ergoline based, its LSD-25, if its based with morning glory seeds, its LSA. LSA is so weak I'd say go ahead and use 7 as your cutoff.) #4. LIFE SENTENCE.(I don't want to scare you out of doing this drug, but you can't be an idiot about it. Each hit of LSD/LSA is considered manslaughter for removing someone from their physical being. So each hit is a life sentence in jail. I used to deal, you don't wanna know what I had to do to make sure the blotter sheets were never spoiled and never found.) Originally added this next one to apply to shrooms actually, when I was 16 I ate a quarter of shrooms and learned a powerful lesson. #5. Don't have sex on Dose.(No matter how much you take you'll either be laughing the whole time because they're face is turning into some weird whirlpool, or you'll be freaking out because, I don't know about the rest of you, the closer I am to someone while tripping, the more likely I am to hallucinate that they're something else.) That rules applies to men and women, closing your eyes doesn't help, it just makes it worse, you'll start to hear shit more when you can't see. I know I've said a lot of negative shit bout dose, don't get me wrong I'm mad I ever started doing it because I wasn't contempt with distortions and insanity. I wanted hallucinations so vivid I thought I could touch them. The drug is amazing and you can not live your life without trying it, but don't go wild with it. Oh and to answer the final question, If you stick to the rule of 3, you'll be fine, but always remember the rule of thumb for taking dose, have a babysitter at least until your safe and sound locked in your room talking to yourself saying,"She was mad, she needed to make me see her wrath, she made me crazy. Now I know, now I respect her, now I serve her." -Basically every first timers mid trip conversation with self, sometime self and sock, once I witnessed cat and sock being voiced by creature living in self's head. If you don't end your first trip trying to establish the first church of LSD and while you were peaking you didn't start bowing down and worshiping an alter to LSD made out of a cup and a pillow, you didn't take enough, take 5 and start over. Have a Happy Trip P.S. If you can remember this by the time you take dose, don't mind the hippo with the glass dildo cane, hes an asexual transvestite, and has cookies. Dropper
I'm sorry, but either you're either extremely deluded or you're lying because the vast majority of what you've just said is untrue and quite a lot of it is physically impossible. There is no such thing as a perma trip. There is no magical LSD that lasts for 2 days. There just isn't. LSD IS NOT STORED IN YOUR SPINE. LSD doesn't make your body think it's dying,and a trip is not a NDE. Once you get tracers you are not stuck with them forever. Flashbacks are very rare and their existence is even disputed. LSA is not sold as acid, at least not with any regularity, and it is an extremely powerful psychedelic compound with different effects to those of LSD. Your ratios of LSA to LSD are simply ridiculous and your suggestions for how much to take are heavily misinformed. I literally cannot seek out and correct every falsehood. Please stop spreading this gross misinformation. Do some real research about this stuff before you try to teach others. I honestly can't decide whether I think you truly believe this stuff or you're just some extremely elaborate troll. OP, disregard this guy. He has no idea what he's talking about. You have a good mindset when it comes to trying drugs, and you're absolutely doing the right thing researching and learning before you try them. Keep reading up and keep an open mind when you do get around to trying stuff. Only you will know if you're using drugs too much, but you seem perfectly level headed and capable of making that judgement. A couple times a week is a very moderate rate of smoking weed IMO, but tripping acid once a month could get to be too often. The thing with acid is that the longer you wait between trips the more you will get out of them. One month should be the minimum, ideally, but after tripping once a month for a while you might become too accustomed to the experience and it can lose some of its magic.
Okay, so you think as long as I have a good mindset (which you seem to think I do) and be careful with them ie. be in comfortable environment, with friends, positive frame of mind etc. then I should be fine? Also, because I don't have any experience with LSD I'm not sure what is considered moderate, but I think I'm sensible enoughto know when it's getting too much and if I'm tripping too much. I guess I'll just have to experiment, be sensible and if I feel that the drugs are getting the better of me then seek help. Right? Was there any truth in the things he said about imprisonment and motivation? If I bought a handful of hits for me and some friends, would giving them away be considered dealing or illegal? Or would everyone just buy their own? Also, he said something about becoming a D student (so basically lack of motivation etc.). The impression that I got was if I smoked a few joints a week and dropped acid a handful time throughout the year and experimented with DMT once or twice then I shouldn't have much of a problem, and it should benefit me more than anything?
i havent got much to put in although there is so so much to say..sorry. biggest feeling you are a narc aye man.. im 17 and ive filtered through alot of information without having to ask so much. i might just be a little paranoid and i appologise if you are legit. Anyway with weed go for it, its fun etc etc but with the bigger psychedelics its going to be a big journey finding the right people to hook you up. perhaps im wrong but it took me bloody ages to get anywhere past buds. ehh thats it for me. good luck man, peace.
A Narc? Anyway, yeah, I'm defo legit, I just tend to need reassurance on certain things that are quite important or when I am completely unknowledgeable about something. But Thanks.
I'm fairly certain that LSD does not carry a manslaughter charge, but only the same type of charge that one gets for any schedule 1 drug. You really have very little to worry about legally. 9/10 policemen won't even be able to identify a couple hits of acid, and even less would care enough to look thoroughly enough to find it. As far as drugs go, a small amount of acid is pretty much the easiest to conceal from police. As for your question about motivation, no, smoking weed will not make you lose all motivation and become a D student. You might make yourself do that, and if you fall into heavy use that could exacerbate the situation, but no matter what you have the power to be motivated or not, the drug has no power over you. Once again, a couple times a week and you're not even touching upon the rate at which some people smoke and are still functioning and productive members of society. You do have a good mindset. I urge you to continue to educate yourself and bring yourself into the world of psychedelics gradually and when the time is right. Tripping acid while hanging out with good friends playing music is pretty much as close to a guaranteed good trip as you can get. Have fun :2thumbsup:
This here is a quality post. :2thumbsup: This is filled with so much utter bullshit, I don't know where to begin. OP... Do some reading for yourself. As with many things, LSD is still surrounded by myth and urban legend. I would urge you to disregard everything posted by him and seek out reputable information. One good place to start is here... http://www.psychedelic-library.org/ And this book in particular will give you a good start in understanding not just the history, but the real deal info about LSD from the man that discovered it. You cannot trip for days, and anyone that says otherwise can be disregarded as simply parroting rumors. http://www.psychedelic-library.org/child.htm A quote from that book by Albert Hoffman. Exdropper... strychnine??? Really? Lay off the "dose" man. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml You come across acting like you're trying to spread truth when in fact you're spreading misinformation and causing more harm than good.
Ex-Dropper is either a troll, a cop, or someone who's entire knowledge of drugs is based entirely on urban myths and government websites.
sound, everyone has given you good advice, 'cept for ex-dropper. i'm constantly amazed at the people who actually take LSD, completely convinced that it has strychnine in it. why they fuck would you take that? it doesn't have it. end of story. why would it? to bind the lsd to the blotter? nope! as far as frequency of use, smoking pot a few times a week would be ideal for me. i smoke multiple times daily, and feel that it's a bit much, but i am still very productive. i have two degrees in biochemistry, and am working on a 3rd. i tend to trip about once per month for the last couple of years, and for that, i feel like once roughly every 3 months would be ideal.
