the "what did i just snort?" game

Just because some people choose to put chemicals in their body, or have done so in the past, does not mean they should be called stupid or retarded or whatever. "proper drug using friends". what the fuck does that mean? how can you say what a "proper drug using friend" is?

 

You seem to have tried to simplify drug use into choosing to use, or choosing not to use. This is rather far from the truth.

Putting a chemical into one's body may be inherently foolish, but the situation surrounding it's ingestion, dosing, purity, set, setting, and reason for ingestion is going to determine most of the virtue or lack thereof associated with ingesting any given chemical.

Wether or not the use of a chemical is acceptable, then, depends on much more than choosing to use it or not. Someone who has, "in the past" (everything that is not specified to be in the future is generally in the past or present, however I will take this to mean the more distant past-not the OP's past described in this thread, given how close to the present it is, and given that it is clearly not divorced from OP's current behavior or attitudes), taken chemicals in a way that could be taken to mean negative things about that individual, could be freed from judgement based on that past behavior (or even judged positively because of it) if the behavior and outlook of the individual had changed. However, the OP clearly has not made any dramatic changes since posting this thread, which brags about blatantly stupid behavior, and which he has returned to several times, to defend this original bragging.

So your basic statement may be correct, people should generally be judged by how they take drugs and not by the drugs that they take, but this thread describes blatantly stupid ways of taking drugs.

A "proper drug using friend" would be an individual who does not propose or encourage reckless, pointless, potentially very dangerous or damaging behavior. There are a lot of people who take drugs in a perfectly respectable way, and OP's friend is clearly not one of them. If an ounce of mushrooms didn't set the guy strait, it's a sad but pretty solid fact that only the grave will, and the sooner the better, because right now he's dragging others down and presenting stupid dangerous behavior as acceptable, and encouraging it. He might be a fine friend if he did these things privately and didn't involve others, but this is not the case-OP's friend is an insidious waste of the time, money, love, care, and work of friends and family.

A positive drug using friend would be one who has some knowledge of the drugs that they choose to take and advise others on (even simple things, maybe..... Like knowing that he's having heart palpitations, not heart attacks.... Sort of too bad he didn't have a heart attack, though), and the safe use of these drugs.

Above all, a friend who does not value life, either his own or those of this associates, is no friend at all, drug using or sober.

Worth noting would be the fact that even with no drugs at all, OP's friend would still be a very poor shadow of what a friend should be.

It could be argued that everything is subjective, and that perhaps life is worthless or best spent chasing the grave, and I would be happy to debate against that outlook, but there's threads for that, and this is not one of them. I have, however, addressed that view to a degree in this post, and so far, gone far beyond any one else in this thread in explanation and support of my viewpoint and statements.

Serena made a pathetically easy, inviting target.

 

I'll be waiting

 

aww roor did serena hit sweet spot?

 

don't even get me started. but hey i love him anyway. he has other qualities. you know what? he's a good guy and i really don't feel comfortable discussing him behind his back. any... more... than i already have.

also it isn't so much bragging... i mean i guess it's a little bit bragging but it's mostly just 'cause i find it funny.

and go ahead and debate if you want to debate. this thread's for anything you want it to be.

 

No one was called stupid for choosing to put chemicals in their body. But choosing to leave out the details of said use in making your point is a bit disingenuous.

I can say what a "proper drug using friend" is not. Much of the behavior presented in this thread. I'm all for liberty and freedom to explore, as much or more than most.
That doesn't mean snorting random unknown whack shit and promoting that sort of behavior doesn't deserve being called what it is.

No one was called stupid for choosing to put chemicals in their body. But choosing to leave out the details of said use in making your point is a bit disingenuous.

 

This

 

hey roor i apologize for my rudeness. i think that you hold a very valid point and opinion on this matter.

 

"Proper drug using friend" is bad terminology. "Safe drug using friend" or "informed drug using friend" would have been better. Positive is also bad. A positive woman should not be using drugs at all.
Anyway, the definition of proper is satisfactorily or correctly. Some people can't be satisfied with doing drugs correctly. So a proper drug using friend can be a friend who does drugs to their satisfaction, however and whatever they want, and in whatever quantity they want. A proper drug using friend can also do drugs the correct way. So by that definition a "proper drug using friend" can be anyone who uses drugs.

 

Bitch got owned. BOOM.

I may just be a massive pussy, but it makes me a little bit queasy when I take some mysterious chemical... but haven't done that in a few years. Just seems strange to do it.. it could do anything. Mixing shit isn't good, especially when you don't know what the fuck is on you scales.

Just to chip in.. I appreciate what you're saying and I completely agree, but picking on a choice of words is just arguing for the sake of arguing You got what he meant

 

for the record i know how to do drugs properly. and used to do drugs properly, in fact. what can i say, i've changed.

 

I never said anyone was called stupid. I said that nobody deserves to be called stupid because they choose to put chemicals in their own body. And it's true!

 

can't really disagree with that, I just couldn't help it:2thumbsup:
I won't take offense if I'm the bitch you were referring to:2thumbsup:
I've done plenty of stuff that could have cost me my life, but I don't regret it. It's not because I was misinformed. I just didn't care at the time. I've snorted what was left on a mirror. Some coke and narcotics. Criticize me all you want.

 

Two things:

You can do something stupid without being a stupid person-this is a semantic difference that is often overlooked, including by myself. This thread surely describes stupid behavior, and it does seem that OP's friend is legitimately stupid, but I don't know.... I'd rather that NOBODY was stupid, but if you don't judge and call it like it is, people just get stupider. If you don't mention problems, how can you fix them in any meaningful way?

And;

Some people may be stupid because of the chemicals that they put into their bodies. The guy on erowid who tried texas mountian laurel is FUCKING stupid, for instance. Again, HOW you take drugs makes you stupid..... everything is a chemical, so no, eating sugar does not make you stupid, but you COULD eat it in a way that would be stupid, and literally even become stupid, because your brain is directly affected by how sedentary you are. In this case there was NO good reason for the use of an unknown quantity of various drugs, with all sorts of potential results. Recklessly doing things that could kill one MIGHT not EVEN be stupid in some situations (say, if one was dieing of cancer) but encouraging others to join you in not valuing life is stupid. Even being suicidal doesn't have to be stupid, at least it inherently involves the individual placing a lot of value in life, to want to end it so badly.

Also, semantics can be important, but I don't think the argument you made on the previous page was particularly important.

So, once again: No, putting chemicals in your body does not make you stupid, but there are some chemicals or behaviors that could be stupid. And I think it's fair to call the behavior described in this thread realllllly stupid.

 

Nah I wasn't calling you a bitch, I think it was OP - or whoever else got owned thinking it was a good idea to sniff a mystery combo of drugs.

But yeah I s'pose it's all down to the person.. just like some people think sky divings a fucking stupid thing to do, and others fuckin' love it. And if you know what drugs have been on whatever surface you're snorting off you at least have a vague idea of what's going in.. but it's still rather dodgey in my opinion

 

The name of the game was "what did I just snort".

Dodgey is being polite

 

i didn't get owned, i knew it was a retarded idea to begin with. just because i did it doesn't mean i thought it was a good idea... don't put words in my mouth. also i didn't call anybody a bitch.

 

I was not sure who you were referring to, and I understand that the word bitch can be used in ways that are not meant to be derogatory at all. Just wasn't sure

 

I guess I don't either. Just arguing. I do that sometimes. Drives everyone around me nuts.