Again, you have NO reason to bring shulgin up in this situation, other than to imply that it somehow excuses you. Shulgin very carefully took chemicals he invented for the betterment of mankind, and you take watch cleaner. They are totally different, from ways, to reasons, to chemicals, to purity, to knowledge of his body and pharmacology. If there was no implication that shulgins work is reckless in the same fashion as yours, WHY did you bring him up? WHAT does the fact that he invented and tested chemicals have to do with you and your lame watch cleaner shit?
1st, roor gets his panties in a bunch often. so don't worry about it my panties might get bunched almost as often though, and i guess you are slightly bunching them. there are different levels of risk! if i seek LSD, yes there is a risk when i buy blotter paper sold as acid. it might be blank. it might be another drug. or it might actually be LSD, and i got what i was looking for. if i buy 40 hits for example, and eat one...i can then be reasonably sure of what i took. if it feels like LSD based on my past experiences, it probably is LSD, or at least it's a closely related lysergamide, or MAYBE i've been fooled every time i've ever had acid and it has always been another drug instead. but anyways, if i then decide that it seems like LSD, now i have 39 hits left, and can dose a relatively known substance. when you buy watch cleaner or bath salt, you are just hoping to get drug x. you can't hope for honesty in that situation because it is marketed as a lie. what you did isn't MUCH different than buying a "roll pill," but i don't condone that behavior either. i've only tried mdma once from a trusted source, not in pill form. note how i express my opinion, and counter your point, without personally insulting you. you guys should give that a try
Hey, at least I used supporting evidence for any names I called him..... As for my panties, yeah, I think they might be glued that way or something....
Did i not just explain this to you? I give up. Not that i ever really cared in the first place. I tried to be safe about it taking small amount waiting for reaction. Then taking one dose. Role-x is prob an apb. Its good. I have nothing else to say here.
Hey guys, saw this thread and was also interested in what chemical this product might contain. I have typed this report so that someone who has a decent amount of RC experience might be able to give a better idea after reading. Here is an experience my friend had with this substance : Picked up a package of this ROLE-X watch cleaner stuff yesterday. (a quick note: male, body weight approx 135 lbs. this person has had a fair bit of stimulant experience before including adderral, ritalin, coke, mephedrome, MDA, and copious amounts of MDMA. they have also taken more lsd than anyone ever should take. ) Inside the bag was a single capsule containing approx. 200 mg, maybe slightly less, of an off white, almost yellowish, crystalline substance. (this was interesting as a lot of other "bath salt" type products leave the substance loose.) The capsule was opened and approximately 5 mg was insufflated through the nostrils to test for allergy. (NOTE: this was extremely painful, snorting other than to test would be unwise) After 25 mins, 60 mg was weighed out and put into a napkin, which was then made into a parachute and swallowed. Effects onset at around the 30-45 minute mark. Initial effects are subtle, becoming more pronounced around the 2-3 hour mark. Personal effects are similar to MDMA, but with less stomach discomfort/ nausea. Gentle waves of euphoria are experienced, along with a warm "fuzzy" feeling in the body. Less jittery than a typical amphetamine buzz, but the desire to smoke copious amounts of cigarettes is experienced. Effects increase for approximately 4-5 hours after initial dose and level off around hour 6, but effects are still noticed after 10 hours, without feeling the desire to redose. One very noticeable trait of the chemical is increased sexual desire. Fooling around with gf proved very dopaminogenic and increased the substances effect with great result. Body stimulation in nearly any way produced waves of pleasure, and calm euphoria. Effects are also mildly empathogenic, with a sort of trippy "head-space" and time dilation similar to MDA or maybe a very low dose of lsd, however concentration on tasks is noticeably increased. No visuals are noted, but lights and colors seem much brighter and clearer than normal, and music attenuation/appreciation is increased as well. The typical amphetamine "come down" is less pronounced compared to other stims used previously. Slight jaw clenching is however noticed. Falling to sleep is difficult (as is with most stimulants), but is achieved around 12 hours after ingestion with the aid of melatonin. However, rest is short lasting and consciousness returns after only 2 hours of sleep (normal for stims). After waking to slight jitters, breakfast is consumed, and cannabis is smoked, which alleviates the symptoms. Baseline is almost achieved, but still slightly buzzed and alert which is not unpleasant. Overall, as far as substances found in a head shop are concerned, the experience was very pleasant and similar to MDMA but with less body load and comedown. Providing that it is taken in moderation, and not recklessly, (as should be the case with ANY substance) this "watch cleaner" proved to be quite effective at it's "unintended" purpose. (endnote: i do not condone the ingestion of watch cleaner, nor recommend anyone do for any reason. don't be stupid, and don't take anything without researching it thoroughly beforehand. many substances can have different effects on different people, and what may be pleasurable for some, could be hellish for others. take everything in moderation and know the risks before consuming ANYTHING )
I believe that it is probably a mixture of things after further research. But I will agree that it most likely does contain appp.