Drugs are bad?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by Ganjabeliever, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. TheGratefulBread

    TheGratefulBread Member

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    Is Caffeine worse than nicotine?
     
  2. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    Where I used to live, huffing spray paint was popular. They got a delightful feeling as it slowly kills their brain.

    Some mushrooms are toxic on a sliding scale. The closer they are genetically to Amanita muscari, (Deathcap) the more toxic they are.

    Sassafras is a liver toxin, but I don't know if your liver can process the toxin in small doses or if there is zero tolerance, that is "no safe dose".

    Pure nicotine can constrict arteries, so that can be very bad in people predisposed to heart trouble, but I think that the principle damage is caused by smoke damage to the lungs and carcinogenic additives.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    Amanita Muscaria are not deathcap mushrooms.
     
  4. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    Sorry for my rusty mycology. phalloides is the bad guy.

    There are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters,
    but there are no old bold mushroom hunters! :sick2:
     
  5. masada

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    Doing any drug here and there wont hurt you. It's the addiction that gets you. Your life starts going to shit and you lose everyone, but you think you're ok. I was 'fine' up until my last arrest. Now I'm looking at a maximum life penalty because i robbed a drug store and attacked a fed with a rambo knife. 2-6 years is whats realistic. That was my wakeup call. I start my sentence in a couple weeks.
     
  6. pSYnE0

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    Drugs are good, mm'ok kids?

    Sounds like a shitty deal. I don't think that you can get maximum life penalty in any western country from robbing pharmacy.

    Also you have to remember that you are victim of drug-war. If you were getting drugs legal and cheap, you wouldn't had to rob pharmacy. Drug war is failed.
     
  7. 73h_6r347_0n3

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    Everything is good in the proper moderation, as well too much of anything is bad
     
  8. FlyingFly

    FlyingFly Dickens

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    Drugs are bad for you, because you stop believing government and stop voting. And you can't work efficient. :D
     
  9. Comfortablynumb11

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    All drugs can have negative side effects...the best thing to do is read up on any drug your curious about and find out what negative effects it can have. erowid.org is a good place too look.
     
  10. IslandHippie

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    You have proved this? Sounds like opinion. lol

    Also, "drugs for fun" is quite vague.

    What if I told you that I've found a chemical that has both improved my overall mental stability and enhanced my spirituality? :sunny:
     
  11. IslandHippie

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    Wow, what's stopping you from taking off and avoiding prison? lol
     
  12. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Those are a tad bit outta order.
     
  14. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    what are you addicted to?
     
  15. toastacidblocks

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    -Writer. Kinda sounds like some Oxy, robbing a drug store usually points there...
     
  16. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Here are the major drug groups that cause major PHYSICAL harm at normal doses. I am excluding drugs which may cause HORRIBLE mental harm but little physical harm as well as drugs that only cause physical harm at higher than normal doses.

    THE LIST:

    1. Alcohol
    2. Tobacco (because of the PLANT itself and the act of burning it)
    3. Dopaminergic Stimulants ("meth", amphetamines, speed, etc.)
    4. MDMA (if taken often- due to Serotonin releasing properties- look up "Phen-Fen")
    5. Barbiturates (at low doses they are not dangerous but the fatal dose is way to close to the normal dose!)

    Notably absent: Opioids, Cannabis, and Serotonegic Psychedelics
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    That's Bull, many Opioid users look like a physical wreck.
     
  18. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Yes, but that is 99% of the time due to the lifestyle addiction to a controlled substance can force a person into as well as unsanitary ROA practices.
    Opiates of themselves are not that harmful physiologically. Many studies have been done, mostly in Britain and the Netherlands, that have shown pretty conclusively that if given access to clean drugs consistently, that opiate addicts can live very complete and productive, healthy lives.
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    Noxious opiates are notorious for causing physical withdrawal, and many terrible physiological symptoms accompany that. A large portion of opioids aren't even illicit and have caused serious problems for many.

    I would be interested in reading some links though suggesting opiate addicts can lead healthy lives...
     
  20. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    Seriously? HE'S the victim? What about the guy he attacked with a knife? Was he forced to do that? No, he's a big boy, and he made his own decision. Pain pills are for people that are actually in pain, not whiney addicts looking for a fix. Don't tell me someone "deserves" cheap drugs just for recreational use. When demand goes up, so does price. And guess what? Even if they were "cheap" those places would still get robbed because a lot of addicts don't have a source of income and will do whatever they can to get their next high. For those with addiction, there is never enough money and never enough drugs.

    I agree the whole war marijuana is stupid, but don't go telling people they're victims. I'm willing to bet he already feels like a victim anyway.

    As far as drugs being physically bad for you, yes, a lot of the stronger ones are, especially with long term use. I would think this would be common sense.

    Uppers (cocaine, meth, caffeine, speed)-->Speeds up your central nervous system--->Speeds up everything in your body, with the most damaging effect being on your heart and nervous system. You're putting yourself at a very high risk for stroke, heart attack, etc. You can't expect to go-go-go-go all the time and not burn the fuck out one day.

    Downers (alcohol, heroin, barbiturates, benzos, most painkillers)-->Slows down your central nervous system, thus slowing everything down, the most dangerous being your respirations. You get high, get sleepy, pass out, and your body forgets to tell itself to breathe. That's how you die from a heroin overdose. And a lot of people mix alcohol with benzos and other downers, not figuring that alcohol is also a downer and will thus potentiate everything.

    And yes, long-term heroin use has been shown to cause organ damage, particularly to your liver and brain.

    As far as what I call, "bored, retarded teenager drugs" (inhalents, cough syrup) well, those should be common sense.
     

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