What role do you guys think love plays in the psychedelic experience? I don't mean your love for your girlfriend; I mean love at its very most pure, love as a concept or ideology. What is to be learned from this? From a discussion standpoint, I am talking about the psychedelic experience. By "psychedelic experience" I refer to any introspective and generally deep trip where core concepts of reality and self are brought into the limelight and thoroughly dissected and explored. I am not talking about those casual trips with friends where you couldn't stop laughing at Sponge Bob for two hours... Conversely, what is the psychedelic experience if devoid of love? I guess what I'm asking is how you think love integrates with the psychedelic experience and how critical you think that aspect of the experience is. I feel the psychedelic experience is another form of love; it's just wrapped up in a bizarre, "wholly other" experience. I say this because I feel like love is necessary to venture out into such deep psychedelic waters. Without it, I feel like we would go out into these uncharted psychedelic realms and break apart without the tether of love. Just curious to see if anyone has any thoughts or input on this. Much love
Love takes on a new dimension in psychedelic trips...Not necessarily warm and fuzzy. I have often felt the entire Universe is Love, while at the same time realizing it doesn't necessarily give a shit about me as a body/personality/individual.
If psychedelic experience equates to a form of love, I probably wouldn't have such a strict definition of it.
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The relationship between love and psychedelics is hard to understand and even harder to articulate. Suffice it to say it seems very apparent that the two are deeply connected and interwoven.
I totally hear you there. I've come to similar revelations on psychedelics myself Definitely. I feel like on certain introspective, personal trips when I focus on good energies and love and positivity I can take the trip to the next level and even beyond that.. I feel like when I focus on things like that, there's a certain undeniable "truth" coming from all that. Almost as if the psychedelic itself is saying "thats it! you're onto it! keep exploring this!"... Right, I didn't mean for it to sound like I am equating the psychedelic experience to love. I understand the psychedelic experience is infinitely complex and can't really just be labeled as one thing (aside from the blanket term "psychedelic experience"). However, there is a certain reward I feel when exploring love for self, love for life, love for earth, etc while on psychedelics that is undeniable and I feel like its of utmost importance to learn and integrate all I possibly can on the subject of love.
In a psychedelic trip (or a psychedelic LIFE for that matter), you stop trying to attain, and possess love, but you simply BE love. BE LOVE NOW. three very strong words... You are like an empty vessel, and energy and love flows through you, just as how in meditation you can watch thoughts come and go through your mind as if its simply a vessel. Anyone who knows about the Citta in Buddhist Tantra then you know what im talkin about.
I used to get to a point when I tripped where I would question what my feelings and emotions really are, and if they are truly sincere. As well as if they really exist outside of the created reality we live in. however, my every trip has been guided with my general love for the world and the universe. So i guess you can say that no matter how detached i was from "love", while tripping, I am much much closer to love then I even think, or then when I am sober. peace n love guys
The Psychedelic Experience is very closely linked to love in my experience. I am not saying that it makes me "love" people or myself, nor do I mean that it makes me feel euphoric. What I am saying, is that on psychedelics, my mind is able to openly and calmly examine itself and examine things about the world that NORMALLY would provoke intense anger and hatred in me. Interestingly, one of the only times I am able to feel empathy is during the psychedelic experience. I suffer from a mental illness related to Schizophrenia (called Schizoaffective Disorder) and have also been told I have a case of Asperger's Syndrome (which I don't completely agree with...but I have been told this by multiple psychotherapists and one psychiatrist) and have a great deal of trouble feeling other peoples' emotions. I try very hard to feel for them but have trouble. Some of the only "truly" empathetic moments in my life have been insights on psychedelics.
Bad trip - psychedelic experience - without love what is it? what is psychedelic experience in first place?