undercover? seeking advice

someone I barely know introduced me to someone else in search of mdma. this guy was apparantly the BF of the owner of the house for the party so I let it slide. However he seemed a bit stockier and too normal looking so something didnt strike me right with him.

immediately after pulling out stuff to do the deed he asks me casually "who I get my stuff from" and I tell him thats an odd question and im not answering that. I messed up weighing and asked if it was ok if the amount he wanted was seperated differently and he seemed unknowledgable of how things worked and hesitantly "yea" (another red flag) . next he asks for my number cause he does this all the time and would like to keep acquiring..... me being intoxicated threw warnings to the win and complied so he has my name and number.

As things werent sitting right with me I asked the friend who referred him how well she knew him and she vouched for him so I wasnt worried for a bit untill he randomly texts me saying we met at (artists name spelled incorrectly) show afterparty and could i call him he needs to ask me a question.

At this point im terrified and dont respond but Im just wondering from some of you vets if im already screwed or if my freedom can be salvaged. All signs point to him being an undercover but since he didnt do anything then and there am I safe? needless to say im no longer involved for safety reasons.

P.S it might be important that im very small scale

 

i suppose it could be an undercover. but you're probably just being paranoid. and if you're this paranoid about a situation that's actually safe, then you probably shouldn't continue doing things that cause you so much stress. or maybe h'es a cop.

 

very true better safe than sorry but just the way he asked things and then sketchily said call me I need to ask you a question had me off gaurd. that and theres been talk about a massive pinch about to happen but your advice is duely noted.

regarding the legalities if nothing is in electronic form and the personal encounter is passed am I safe in that regard?

 

Yeah, i think you're probably safe.

 

If he's a real undercover you could possibly and most likely will get your house raided. However what you have to me seems more like a newb than an undercover. Better safe than sorry though. Don't deal with people you don't put confidence in not cooperating with law enforcement.

 

If you were measuring in front of him and he didn't do anything I think you're good.

 

Damn bro that sounds really sketchy. Don't you know to use fake name when dealing..
Disposable phones. This guy sounds like the classic undercover. Hopefully he's looking to fry bigger fish if he is...

 

Change your phone # and clean your house. Just to be safe.

 

the one thing that undercovers will not do is introduce dealers to their kids /wife/mom at their residence...it is way too difficult to fake a family so they only do it for big big crimionals......you gotta shut down asap,clean up and also warn your contacts...you have a responsibility here

 

I've had a similar experience lately...scary, but probably fine.

Without getting into too many details, this guy a friend introduced me to to get weed, kept asking me for shrooms whenever I bought from him. He said he had been dealing for years, but didn't know much about weed. Some of the storied he told me sounded just like the storied my friend passed along that he told her. It was like he just had a few weed stories that he repeated to everyone. (I've personally heard of cases before where undercovers will smoke weed and get it, so they can gain trust for a cocaine bust.)

So, I think he's just kind of a loser, but I worked up this whole thing in my head about how he was an informant, and the cops were fine letting him sell weed as long as they could get me on shrooms. (There is a little more to it, but I'm actually still paranoid to write it all down.)

It definitely is possible that an informant (more likely than undercover) would do this type of stuff.
The whole informant thing is so shady and backward, that even if they supply you with drugs, they can still use evidence to bust you. And the informant gets free reign to do whatever they want. Usually the cops will pick an idiot who they caught and is willing to work with them.

It's also possible that the cops could use the information from an informant to get a search warrant, as long as the judge considers the informant reasonably reliable, and as long as it is somewhat timely. After a few months, I doubt the judge would grant the search warrant, from what I've read online. Or if the informant has no history of providing valid information, it's sometimes harder to convince a judge....but the cops could lie about that.

Anyway....I never sold him or got him anything, and he has no info about me having anything except that my friend apparently told him I sometimes get shrooms. So, I feel pretty safe.

I would guess you are safe too if the guy wants to talk again, because even if he was an informant, that would mean they wanted him to get more evidence, which you won't do.

(I highly doubt is was an actual cop, but if it was, he could get an arrest warrant based only on what he already got, especially if he took some with him. And that can happen weeks after the incident.)

But...most likely just an someone who doesn't know much and is trying to fit in.

 

So this guy dosn't remember how you met, and he asks where a dealer gets his stuff. Two red flags, I would be careful. I have been in your situation, cops love to find the rare shit. Anyone can bust a cocaine dealer, but to get something exotic that they don't see everyday like MDMA, I promise you that would be a feather in his cap. He will be bragging to his cop buddies. It's like finding a rare species in the wild.

Do your friends deal? Maybe you ended up in a plea bargen.

 

@sunshine I dont keep it in my house I keep it in my vehicle in a seperate container =)

@guerilla thats a good point I just figured maybe 1 time wasnt enough and since im small scale that maybe he wasnt satisfied with what I had and wanted to use me to go higher.

@jared the only thing is the friend who pointed him my way told him my name -.- but my connect uses a disposable phone and im probably going to hop on board with that idea.

@rolling i live in a collegetown so given that its summer shutting down is not a problem since we only have 1 more big show coming.I did tell my connects and ask their advice

@unfocused he did remember how we met but he spelled bassnectar wrong along with other EDM related things. as far as it being rare well im only flipping quarters so im not that big of a deal but my town is notorious for a HUUUUUGE supply of good, quality molly. I dont know why other than A) party school college town and B) an unstoppable increasing EDM scene thats became nuts were like a mini miami

@peace good point about the need for him to get more info being a good sign given that im not cooperative! the more yall raise this point I guess he could just be a newb im just not willing to bank my freedom on it

and lastly thanks to everyone for the advice/tips!

 

Yeah MDMA is not that hard to make once you have a few semesters of college classes under your belt. The hardest part is getting the precursors. I find college towns are usually full of it. Your classmates are probably cooking it up in a frat house basement.

Good luck BD

 

I'm not vouching for or against him, but:

If him wanting to talk in person throws you off, you do shit so sketchy you're already being followed, anyway. You NEVER discuss illegal things over the phone or text, ALWAYS meet in person first.

He's asking to buy your shit, duh.

 

Unless he's after bigger fish, which is always the case. Why bust this small time guy for a gram of molly if you can get his dealer with a 1/4lb of it.

This situation sounds very sketchy to me. I would discontinue any relations with that guy and his friends. Even if he's not a cop, he sounds like he's just too much of a newb to trust being a dealer to.

A lot of dealers don't realize that the most important rule of the game is the customer selection. People sell too easily.

 

When I got busted by an undercover at a rave I only had 9 pills and the second he saw me distribute any of them he was on me, it perhaps could be a different situation at a house party but I doubt it and seeing as his friend vouched for him. I would think if he was looking for bigger fish he'd still make a move on him and give him the ultimatum to give up his connect in exchange for not getting busted.

Just sounds like someone new to the drugs and curious about them.

 

Yep ^ I agree.

I also don't think you are being paranoid - in that from everything you said...this dude sounds SUPER sketchy (very likely undercover, or an informant) and I thought that on your first post.

AND yes, you most certainly could be busted later for a small amount - in hopes that you would reveal just EXACTLY what he asked (who did you get it from) - especially if he was wearing a wire. It's like this - if he didn't even understand about weighing, etc...what in the hell was he wanting to know where you got it from and then expressing that he'd like to do more of this. He hadn't even tried it yet, right? So how would he even know he'd like it?

In another town I lived, I knew some ppl that got busted just this way...dude seemed ok, to fit in with locals at a bar, and it went from there. SOB was undercover, and busted 3 different ppl a couple of months (or so) after the "transactions". It came out in court he was wearing a wire.

Just shut down, and clean up everything from your premises...even if he was wearing a wire, a good lawyer could most probably get you off, or at least PIP. (Pretrial Intervension Program) Not to scare you...but you are right to be concerned about this. Let this be your wake-up call.

 

A lot of dea agents are not busting people right away , theyre getting connected to find the source, it's on the show here in vegas and theyre quite smart about what they do, dont fuck with him no more & if youre gonna sell drugs have someone else sell them, sell it to someone who doesnt know much about you or someone you trust very well, its good to be paranoid, 90% of sales ive ever made i stayed paranoid & the one time i didnt i got busted with a eigth, but when dealing with narcotic or E its best to play safe than sorry man , its weird some older guy who claims to party a lot doesnt know shit about wieghing or asks stupid questions to a drug dealer, stay lowkey & goodluck bro

 

just sounds like an idiot honestly. an informant is going to know a shit load about drugs because they had to get busted in the first place to become an informant. a regular undercover would have busted you already

 

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