What about your experience with anti anxiety stuff?

Discussion in 'Pharmaceuticals' started by Meaningful, May 17, 2012.

  1. Meaningful

    Meaningful Guest

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    I've been experimenting on anti anxiety stuff for quite a long time and always knew where I could gt it. Now that resource is no longer available and I'm searching for new places to buy my pills without any problems.
    I have just received the call from medstore-online.com - they suggest me what I need but I do not know if they are quite reliable to order from. may be someone among you have had an experience with them? Any reply will be greatly appreciated:)
     
  2. foresting

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    I really wish I had some, I had a lovely panic attack this afternoon. Note the sarcasm :(
     
  3. Meaningful

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    if you're using the meds for legitimate anxiety, you should see a doctor to get them.
     
  5. Meaningful

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    now doctors do not hurry to prescribe such meds..they are afraid to take responsibility as there is so much noise about them nowadays in mass media
     
  6. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    yeah that's not true. if you go to a doctor and tell them that you're having debilitating panic attacks, you're probably going to get a script for a benzo.
     
  7. Meaningful

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    For all that it depends on doctor...some will try to suggest lighter meds and watch the reaction...
     
  8. VikeyMikey

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    My guess is you don't want to see a doctor because they will probably only prescribe benzos in therapeutic doses and you are probably looking for a lot more. Especially since most benzos are dirt cheap if you go through a doctor and are getting them through legitimate avenues.

    Your only real option is to simply test out one of these online sources and take a shot.
     
  9. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I would just see a doctor about it. If you describe symptoms of "Panic Disorder" rather than "Generalized Anxiety Disorder" you will likely get benzos the first time. And even if you have to do the "one month trial" of an SSRI, just don't take it if you are so set on benzos.

    But honestly, I don't find benzos that exciting. They calm you down for sure, but they offer zero actual euphoria and zero "interesting" experiences like a psychedelic would.
     
  10. Jimmy P

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    Yeah, benzos kinda suck. Unless you just want to go to sleep.

    Where I live I can buy as much valium & xanax as I want, OTC, at dirt cheap prices. And I know countries where they are even cheaper. So it shouldn't be a problem finding an online resource if you're really that desperate for such a shitty drug.

    By the way, before you go and get further hooked on these things, do a bit of research about the withdrawal process. I hear it's almost as bad as heroine.

    Good luck!
     
  11. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Actually, it is worse. You can actually DIE from benzodiazepine withdrawal (ie: stopping cold-turkey), whereas deaths form Heroin withdrawal are not very common...the same with opioids in general. They may be the most UNPLEASANT withdrawal, but not the most dangerous.
     
  12. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Wow, that's really interesting. Shocking, but not really surprising.

    Thanks for the ammo! :2thumbsup:
     
  13. DoinMeSince93

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    Buy valium online from mexico , my step mom does it a lot, stay away from the xans man.
     
  14. Meaningful

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    But Valium is benzo as well...why is it safer than Xanax?
     
  15. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    It is less potent milligram to milligram and it also has a much longer half life meaning that withdrawal won't be as dangerous.
     
  16. YouthInAsia

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    I'd suggest picking up a legal prescription for them, incase you have too much fun and end up in a hospital, which I doubt hearing how long you've been on them.. Though a lot of us need them for actual purposes, they are quite easy to obtain legally. I noticed I wouldn't even have to explain how terrible a panic attack can leave me, and left with a prescription. I'm not saying to fool the system, but at least pay a doctor to have your name on the label above the doctors name. Though I'm not sure how online pharmacies go, I'd be more protective of your identity and location if possible. I wish you good luck, and hopefully these online do no ruin prescriptions for others, as the whole opiate disease made getting pain relief extremely difficult to acquire legally.

    My thoughts on anxiolytics: I've found anxiolytics to be great for that, lowering anxiety. I wouldn't use it for 'stopping' anxiety at all, which people seem to try to achieve when down and drown themselves out with anxiolytics. The drugs aren't that great for recreational use, as tolerance builds quite quickly and chronic use leads to lowered euphoria even at higher doses.
     
  17. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    You know...talking about effective anti-anxiety medication...I have been doing some pharmacology reading this week, seeing what the "latest" areas of drug-research are, and there is some really cool, promising news on a new breed of anxiolytics (anti-anxiety drugs).

    This newer breed of drug works by acting as a FULL agonist at the 5-HT1A (Serotonin 1A) Receptor site. Now, we already have one REALLY CRAPPY drug that acts on this receptor. It is called Buspar, and I honestly don't know how on earth it ever got approved for anything. Why? Because it acts only as a PARTIAL agonist at the 5-HT1A. How much, you say? 33 percent of maximum!!!

    Whew. And you always wondered why Buspar sucks! Generally, to get any sort of symptomatic response from a receptor agonist, it's instrinsic activity must be AT LEAST 60%. Buspar's intrinsic activity is only 33%. Thus, it is essentially a placebo.

    But they have a whole gamut of NEW drugs that offer FAST and REAL anxiety relief just waiting to be put through to the FDA. Why do these agents work?

    When Serotonin itself, or a specific 5-HT1A Agonist binds to the 5-HT1A receptor, some exciting things happen. To put it shortly, it causes a cascade release of hormones. But the two hormones that are released that are of main importance for anxiety are OXYTOCIN and BETA-ENDORPHIN.

    Oxytocin is the "cuddle hormone" (as pop culture scientists have branded it). It happens to be released in breast-feeding (for mother and child), hugging, hand-holding, and even petting your dog or cat. This may be the secret KEY to solving the anxiety mystery. Benzos and barbs just "blunted" the brain so that it couldn't "over-react" to annoyances.

    These 5-HT1A agonists, instead, cause fundamental change in how a person perceives an annoying situation. I have saved the best part for last: direct stimulation of 5-HT1A, releasing Oxytocin, is the proposed reason Ecstacy (more properly...MDMA) causes such empathogenic experiences!

    And as for Beta-Endorphin? It is the brain's own opioid agonist. We all know that opioid agonists can cause pretty "pleasant" feelings (to put it mildly...), so including B-Endorphin is nice too.



    So I just wanted to share this news with all you anxiety sufferers. I personally will be the first person in line to get on these new drugs when they are approved. I hate taking benzodiazepines, and would love to approach social interaction with genuine empathy and love rather than just drugging myself "numb" (with opioids) or inflating my own ego so much that the whole thing is all about ME (with amphetamine).
     
  18. Meaningful

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    Wow....thank you, etkearne, you are really a very clever person..I could not understand all the info however I caught the main idea:2thumbsup:
     

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