i'm about to head out to a music fest, and have come across this drug for sale multiple times there, but never purchased any. How much for, say, a gram? i'm not sure what quantities they're usually sold by.
i would say like 100 bucks or less be prepared for people to tell you it shouldn't be bought and sold like that i only bought it once, and got half a gram for $30, not at a fest though
lots of people think that dmt should not be sold, for any amount of money. if you want to try try it, you should extract it yourself. or if you want to turn other people onto it, you should just give it to them. that's what they seem to think
very interesting. why exactly? what separates DMT from other hallucinogens in that it shouldn't be sold? i'm not necessarily anti i just have never heard that, but i've never really wanted to try DMT until now.
from what I understand its just considered so enlightening that it shouldn't be used as a commodity to be bought and sold. I remember a thread on HF a while back where someone tried to manufacture DMT to sale and caught their house on fire. Hindsight being 20/20, they decided that it was spirit of DMT that caused the fire and prevented them from selling it and bringing corruption to such an enlightening drug. I haven't tried DMT yet because to be honest I don't want to buy it from anyone. I'm not sure why but it just seems more pure (a more pure intent) to extract it myself.
I had a vendor quote me $600 pounds a gram for it once. That's like $1000 American. Cheapest I have seen is about $150 a gram. The people you find selling it, will want allot for it. They will have no respect for the chemical, they only see $ signs and think this is rare. As others have said extract it, it is very easy, and does not require any chemistry skill like you would need to make other psychedelics. But I would recomend being careful. DMT is intense and not the best for a festival, it's not acid where you will sort of be aware of your surroundings. You will go to another dimension if you take enough. Maybe if you took it in your tent with a trip sitter you will be ok, but don't be hitting it in the crowd during a band's set. 3 or 4 hits is the magic number. Allot of people take one and feel kinda funny and they think that is all it is. No, keep pushing and take the hits fast because it will begin fast.
yeah, if you take one hit of DMT you will probably think it is lame and weak. if you take two good hits, you will get a good glimpse of it. 3 or 4 is supposed to be enough to blast off, but vaporizing DMT properly seems to be really difficult. i use the sandwich method and have taken about 5 or 6 hits, still no breakthrough. much of those hits are the herb that i'm sandwhicing with, so there's no telling how much DMT i'm actually getting. # of hits is a real inaccurate way to dose too
Porkstock has nailed it. I would recommend finding a tree that calls out to you in a peaceful location, sit under and enjoy everything that you will be shown. Being in nature has definitely brought me to some wonderful places.
i've thought that maybe it wouldn't matter so much being in nature on a strong dose of DMT, since it takes you so far away from normal "reality" that you can't really observe your surroundings a whole lot. it feels to me that the "right" way to experience DMT if with your eyes closed. but maybe sitting under a huge tree, or near some running water would really enhance the trip. i've always done it in this computer room...and shut my eyes.
Understanding that I've never done it; How serious it is. I have a problem with making much money on hallucinogens, but would take token amounts for good doses. Charging also makes people take it less seriously-sets the wrong mentality. I've heard tell of it going for ten bucks a hit-I know someone who bought it, did NOT break through, it was being sold and used in obnoxious party settings and they had a TV on, others in the room, and some jackass hanging in their face asking if they felt anything. They where also totally ignorant of it and unprepared, didn't remember the name of what they took, had never heard of it before that...... So yeah, that's why people might shun those who sell or buy it.
after my first true breakthrough the idea of money has no interest in me. so I guess that if your trying to make a profit off of it you have not used the spice for its purpose to find enlightenment. i was down in niagara falls,blasting off and you can feel all of that energy. so much. cant even put words to it the power of it all.
in response to having trouble vaporizing, try investing in a vaporgenie. very much worth it as the sandwich method isnt very good at all.
Yea, i wasn't planning on using it at the fest, but to bring it back to use. No such luck in finding any. Any links on to what and where to buy such necessary tools for the extraction? My real plan is to smoke it at midnight of Dec. 21, as lame as that may sound to some...
In reference to the bolded passage of your post, it's quite impertinent and speculative, really. As you know, the price of any commodity typically reflects that commodity's value, its ease or difficulty of acquisition/production, the consumers' demand for that product relative to the product's availability, etc. In the black market, further layers of price-determining variables would be the commodity's degree of illegality, the severity of its dealer's punishment if caught, how surreptitiously one would have to operate to avoid the Feds, how difficult establishing crucial and trustworthy connections (to purchase lab equipment and precursors watched like a hawk by the DEA) are etc. The furnishing, operation, and concealment of a laboratory sufficient enough to allow for the synthesis of large quantities of DMT is no cheap emprise. The lab is expensive to stock and maintain, the synthesis is arduous as all hell, the judicial system is so merciless such that getting caught could mean being locked in a cage until death. Though, for those clandestine chemists who're successful at it, requesting a little money for the drug as remuneration for all the work they've done and risks they've taken shouldn't be seen with scorn and disgust, right? Hypothetically, a kilogram of pure DMT synthesized in a lab that's priced at ~$3,000 should be seen more like a gift from God than a rip off by some greedy chemist. A chemist who took a big chunk of time out of his/her own life to make that product, mind you. All the consumer does is exchange money for the drug. They have it approximately 100,000 times easier, and should thus be more grateful and appreciative that they're able to buy the drug at all, rather than to bicker and complain about not everything being the way that they want it to be.
^ good point. There is allot of risk in drug production. An extension of that is that it is also dangerous to sell drugs. I just meant I normally see it for sale by people who don't care for it's true meaning. Your probably not buying anything from a chemist, you by it many hands down the line. At some point you find a guy who doesn't care. The first people to touch it are buying in bulk, the chemist just wants to get rid of it, they don't dont do a background check on a buyer. You got the cash, you got the stuff. But they are not all like that. I am lucky to have good sources, and even they charge a bit to recoup production costs and time. It doesn't have to be free, I just want to buy from the right guy.
Well, you're mostly correct. The assumption that drugs at the top of the drug chain are sold to anyone with sufficient cash, as though it were an auction of sorts, is inaccurate. There's a stage of networking involved wherein the potential wholesale buyer and chemist attempt to establish cordial relationships with each other. You'd have to be considered a trustworthy friend before even setting eyes on the merchandise is permissible. A kilogram of DMT is worth a lot of money if you meet the right people, but also 15+ years in prison if you meet the wrong people. The DEA's putative modus operandi for catching the big fish is to lure them in with money proffered by an undercover agent; a secondary procedure would be relying on the claims of an informant and seeing where they lead. Both of these techniques could be circumvented by knowing your clients better than their mothers do. The snitches and undercover cops can be detected, with time, by getting to know them and their behavior. If you can't ascertain the potential client's degree of susceptibility to become a snitch or spot the lipstick on the pig (e.g., the plain clothes on the fed), you sever ties immediately and find somebody else.
