Psychedelic Bump XVIII

You can still lay around with the caffiene added to the Mdma if you wish, it primarily accentuates the effects and IME does extend the duration. Sort of like how many use pot to enhance LSD, I find caffiene performs a similar function with MDMA.

 

This absinthe was home brewed by a good friend. Made with northern wormwood and he extracted his own anise. Really, really good tasting beverage, I can't wait to get more and try it.

 

Thanks for the help Pork, Writer and GB! Wonderful help as always. I'll follow that advice and dose somewhere between 150 and 200mg but not quite yet sure what it will be exactly. Either way it should be a wonderful time. Don't know if I'll add caffeine yet, but we shall see. Thanks again for the help

Also gonna try my best to get some music out there

 

My molly doses consist of a 200mg first dose and then 100mg every 1-2 hours after that. Guaranteed to have a good time, and a good old Red Bull never hurts when you need some energy for sure.

 

what ever thats the bast picture i seen in ages........its great

 

Wish I had the means to do that. Unfortunately it didn't come cheap. Not overly expensive, but not cheap. Got .6 for $60 which is about street value around here. I'm not employed so I can only indulge when I have money (Yay graduation!). Cant afford to be getting high off of $30 bucks or more each time! Would definitely love to though. Think I narrowed our dose to the 175-200mg range. Will probably keep convincing myself until I get it to 200mg, so stay tuned. I guess the good thing about 200mg it's sure not to be a disappointment (Well not SURE, but you know).

How it goes also depends on whether or not what I have is MDMA. The guy I got it from said he tried it and it seems really high quality (Of course). I've never seen Crystal or Powder MDMA before so I cant compare but when I looked at it I noticed they were off-white crsytals, similar to pictures on erowid ( I know this is no where near a sure fire way to identify substances). It was weighed out in gel caps (I wasnt a huge fan of that), each with 100mg which also leads me to believe it is indeed MDMA. Maybe if its not MDMA its at least MDA

 

Go for the full 200mg.

 

Well that does it, when 4 out of 4 people say 200mg It's time for 200mg

Will also have bud to help us and to hopefully help the comedown. Gonna try to not smoke for at least an hour or two so I can get a feel for the unadulterated MDMA experience for awhile

 

Id reccommend waiting even longer to smoke, there's like 2 distinct phases of the Mdma peak. The rush which is about 2-4 hours and then what I call swimming which is like another hour or 2. The swimming part is more psychedelic, like your vision might start getting more blurred and wavy and I tend to feel the empathogenic affects most strongly here.

Some I have rolled with cater to smoking weed like the second the rush lets up a bit but I think both those phases offer alot. Anyways hope you have a great, magical time.

 

or just smoke ganja
you can even mix a few types of bud together and smoke a "salad"

pot can definitely make (low-medium doses of?) LSD more intense, but not necessarily "enhanced." even though i'm a pothead, i take most of my psychedelics without having smoked yet that day, and try to experience a part of the trip without weed. but i also end up smoking some of those times to...yeah, i guess "enhance" my visuals and scattered thoughts, but it can also cloud the trip in a way...

wow, i was just gonna say that if you're apprehensive to take a whole 200 mg, you should take at least 175. but i really don't know, as i've only sampled it one time.

 

I was using the term enhanced as primarily the boost in visual effects for low-mid range doses of LSD. I agree pot can cloud the trip, similarly with Mdma too much caffiene can detract from the experience which is why I recommended fairly specific amounts.

 

i hear ya.

bump for feeling slight placebo effects from raw shiitake shrooms
i wonder if they were dried if they would smell really good too?

do fresh 'cubes smell as strongly as dried ones? i think you can KIND OF identify good mushrooms by their smell, like you can with a bag of weed.

bump for more shiitake in a bit. in a cheesy, tomato-y tortellini

 

Oh I smoke the ganj almost every day (but not ALL day like some people. I have one bowl in the evening as a nightcap, somewhere around 0.5g - 1g)

JWHs are dirt cheap and I enjoy trying them for the novelty. Plus hey, you never know when a few hundred mg of synthetic cannabinoid will come in handy. Some of them like 250 are analgesics.

ps. i'm eating dinner right now and you're STILL making me hungry with your food talk

 

Smoking the bud isnt really set in stone, its just one of those things thats just always there in case I need assistance. I plan on getting at the very least a few hours without it, and at 200mg I'm sure I'll be fine without. I'll try to follow what you say and save it for near the end. I'll keep an eye out for the swimming phase (Love the name btw ). This is (hopefully) going to be my first proper roll so I'd like a mostly unadulterated feel for it.

Tried ecstasy tabs twice. The first time I took one Blue Batman which turned out to just be a meth bomb (Still had an amazingly fun time) then the second time was one Purple Naked Lady G Spot, which I supposed to just be MDMA. I'm guessing it ranged from 80-110mg and I took it in a not very good setting out of eagerness to try it. Did it at home solo (Well playing Xbox Live with a friend, but physically solo). It was still enjoyable but not what I expect when I hear of a good roll.

Went off on a random tangent there which leads into my next part. Bump for some APVP. I absolutely love this chemical and at the same time I absolutely hate it. The high is amazing but it can come with nasty side effects and its very moreish. When I first got it I told myself I would never try freebasing it, but it almost always gives me pretty bad side effects with any other ROA, so after reading multiple reports saying it almost eliminated most side effects I decided to try it. Kind of glad I did, but at the same time I wish I didnt. The high is SOOO much cleaner. The physical side effects are still very much there but when compared to other ROA's its almost non existent. I wouldnt say its anymore moreish than insufflated, its just that the high is shorter which leads to more frequent redosing. Something that surprised me is that I find insufflating tons more euphoric. Freebasing just feels all around more clean and safe (Note I said FEELS!), except of course on the lungs.

One more thing, this is not so much of a everyday drug, more like once a week or so but when you do it you binge. Earlier today I gave myself a limit to take my last hit at 12am, yet here it is, 4:30 am and I'm about to take another hit.

The lack of side effects from freebasing APVP compared to other ROAs is almost scary. Makes you wonder what's getting fucked up in your body that you just cant feel. This thought popped into my head but I feel it is of note. With all ROA's minus APVP, it gets my BPM up to about 120 resting, however tonight with freebasing it only got to that point for maybe an hour or so but has stayed between 75-95 BPM since then, even after redosing.

All I know is that APVP is awesome for making super long posts. I thank anyone who read that whole thing. You get 2 thumbs up! :2thumbsup:

 

Fresh cubes smell just like normal mushrooms though. Dried cubes... don't. This doesnt really apply to mushrooms that were picked off cow pies... those just smell like poop.

 

APVP Binge Update!

Just felt like sharing my experience tonight. First of all I feel surprisingly good for having been freebasing APVP for a good part of the past 17 hours (Already? Damn). Again it's almost scary the lack of physical side effects with freebasing in contrast to insufflated or oral. I have consumed a fairly good amount in the past 17 hours (There was a couple hour break in there) and at this point I am in fairly good spirits minus being disappointed in myself, My heart is doing surprisingly well at roughly 72 BPM, which is unheard of for me with APVP. The only real negative at this point in time is that I'm a bit nauseous, but I attribute that more to a lack of food than the APVP itself. The only other negative is the fact that its 7am and I'm still awake. Like most stims it can turn you into a god damn chain smoker, so if you smoke cigarettes try to pace yourself and take into account the effects that tobacco has on your heart rate and blood pressure. It almost always effects my appetite ranging anywhere from a mildly suppressed appetite to having no appetite at all. I've been living mostly off of vitamins, water and milk (I try to drink milk for for the nutrients and so you actually get some calories) the past 24 hours. I also find this not to be a 'working mans' stimulant. I dont like it for physical activities, that just adds to the physical anxiety that it gives me. Best used more mental work and is absolutely incredible for conversations. The music enhancement is unlike any other straight stimulant that I have tried

I'm starting to feel a lower and lower desire to redose after each previous redose, but the moreishness is still present. Starting to not really feel a high from redoses, even larger ones. Just makes me feel a bit more content for a few minutes while I prepare my next hit (Not literally, but it feels like right after you take your hit your already loading another). About to take my 'hopefully' last hit of the night, but I feel fairly confident at this point that I will keep it at that (My conscious doesn't want anymore really, it's just my instinctual part needs that one last hit, and that need grows weaker each time) and only 7 hours later than initially planned!

Don't know if there is anything else that I wanted to say so I'll just leave this for whoever is considering acquiring some A-PVP.

Freebasing is my preferred ROA but please do be careful with it. It can get out of hand very quickly if you dont watch yourself. There is no escaping the moreishness, but oral is the best way to do so, but the high is much lower quality that way compared to insufflated or freebasing IMO. For me APVP feels extremely unhealthy (unless freebasing, then it just feels moderately unhealthy). Feels very hard on my cardiovascular system, but out of the 5 or so people I know who have tried it, I get the worst of the side effects. Probably a good thing I do, somewhat helps me control my intake. When I snort it I usually stop by 6 bumps or so, when the physical side effects start to feel like too much and I have to stop for my physical safety. A typical snorted A-PVP session is usually about 2-4 hours between the first and last bump. With freebasing the lack of physical side effects makes it so I can go longer without being convinced I'm on the verge of a heart attack (4hours vs 17hours).

I'm not gonna lie, the high can be absolutely amazing, but of course its also extremely moreish. If you have any issues with controlling yourself, especially with stimulants, I'd suggest just looking the other way. I have always been pretty good at setting limits for myself, but this can throw that all out of the window. You just keep playing the "What's one more?" game until its 17 hours after your first hit and you still keep hitting it, even though you know you absolutely shouldn't. Needless to say I went into tonight knowing I would be tested and as far as I'm concerned I completely and utterly failed.

Sorry If I repeated a lot of stuff from my previous post. Please be very careful if you decide to try at and dear god do not get more than 1 gram at a time, maybe even less (You'll thank me later for that advice). Hopefully this can help someone and if not I hope it was at least a somewhat entertaining read. I was at least entertained writing this. If consuming APVP aka Ape Vape as I've heard it called and have been calling it ever since, expect your post length to increase at least ten fold


Edit: I've been up for about 25 hours now with my last hit being about 2 hours ago. After about 23 hours of being awake, the majority of which I was on APVP, My mindset shifted in an unpleasant direction. I cant put my finger on it, just something about it is unpleasant. Soon after I decided it was time to try and get some sleep. After about 24 hours of being up I noticed that I was getting slightly paranoid and would check out my window every couple of minutes. Not sure why, but I fell like I just have to check. When I was putting on a movie I got distracted about 3 times picking up crumbs from my carpet and closely examining them, which is something I can't say I've ever really done. I took 15mg of Melatonin and smoked a bowl of some Indica to help sleep, but there is still no sleep in sight. At this point I know time is the key to sleep since my last hit was only 2 hours ago. So that leads me to my question:

If I were to take 1mg of phenazepam in 2-3 hours, due to it's long half life would it possibly affect my MDMA experience on Saturday?

Feel like I should sleep for the sake of my sanity and I would like to avoid psychosis. Dont know how close I really am, but I have read at least one experience of a guy entering psychosis in 24 hours on APVP, with 2-3 days being more common (I'm positive I'll sleep by then), and I do feel 'off' mentally for lack of a better term, but I feel I'm AT LEAST a good few hours and/or more APVP (Which even the thought of repulses me at the moment, thank god) from psychosis. Dont really know how to judge when psychosis come on, so I am kind of pulling that from my ass but its just a hunch. Feel like I could be full blown crazy in a few hours or just a tiny bit more crazy than I feel at the moment, which isnt too much. Can swing either way

Sorry if that last edit was scattered, straight up didn't make sense, or was completely irrelevant. I really would appreciate it if anyone could help with my question

One more note: After 2 sessions I am now done freebasing APVP. The lack of physical side effects makes me feel like I can go forever, at least when I snort it I physically feel like shit after a few bumps so I actually want to stop. Was very close to flushing it after that last hit, but I have 2 or 3 friends who I know would appreciate a last go. After that it very well may go down the toilet. Oh yeah, the other thing that made me decide no more freebasing. Went to take a shower and the first thing I did was cough up a big, near black, ball of phlegm. Sorry if that's TMI, but I feel people should take that into consideration if deciding to freebase

Edit #2: Been trying to sleep for about the past 6 hours and I ended up getting about an hour of good sleep. It was enough rest to get mostly back to normal mentally thankfully. At this point I am no longer considering taking Phenazepam. Still can't get back to sleep and I think the one hour was enough to hold me over until I pass out tonight. I think I will have 2 or 3 last Hoorahs with APVP each with a different friend who would like one last go, and then its going into the toilet. It just doesn't feel safe and it has time and time again proven stronger than I. This is the only time that it went over about 4 hours longer than originally planned. I almost always end up doing more than I had planned or go on longer than planned, this was just the time that really made me realize that no good really comes from me having it.

 

Damn that's quite a binge Superpsychme. I don't know how the phenzepam or this APVP experience would affect your MDMA experience, I doubt there is much information out there about day long binges effect on tolerance...

The peaking out the window thing very well could be considered a sign of psychosis but you are coherent enough to be able to type and stuff so you seem like you have a grasp on reality. I'd recommend just chilling out for a bit, Take it easy for the next few days, rest and eat food.

 

on 25mg of 4-homipt right now, proper good shit. smoking weed and doing nos big upppp

 

poly, had you tried 4-ho-mipt before? if yes, at what doses? do you think 25 mg was a pretty solid dose?


super, DON'T flush drugs...they end up in your drinking water that way. throw it in the trash, less harmful to the environment that way

 

If I were writing a chapter or whatever on bingeing thought processes I'd want to include your posts on this - all the way through the matter-of-fact wondering if this is s slide into psychosis.

I think GB is giving you some good counsel. In addition to taking it easy and eating some food, maybe also get some exercise or clean house or whatever. Take care.