Are you your brain?

A primitive tribe is found in the dense forests of South America. The tribe has never had contact with modern civilization. While the tribe is sleeping a battery operated radio with a clear plastic case is set into the middle of the village and is controlled by a researcher via a remote control electronic system. A satellite is used to monitor the tribes daily activity. When they awaken the researcher turns on the radio and the tribal members now hear a voice projected through the radio speakers.

Of course they are stunned by the event and have no comprehension of the technology involved. No matter how they approach the radio there is simply no way to see it connected to anything else. When looking at the inside via the clear plastic case they see wiring and components that make up a radio but nothing else. And yet they know that the voice they hear is coming from the radio therefore in terms of their primitive logic (based only on the forest they live in), the owner of the voice must be inside the radio.

Now substitute the concept of a primitive tribe with a group of modern day neurologists studying the human brain. They know that as they prod and poke different responses occur and yet they cannot actually find those responses within the brain. All they ever find is the wiring and components that make up the brain. The neurologists know that the responses they measure are coming from inside the brain therefore in terms of their primitive logic (base only on modern day civilization), the owner of the responses must be inside the brain.

Are you your brain? I don't think so......

"My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know it exists." – Nikola Tesla

Note: This is a conspiracy of such magnitude that it defies what you perceive as reality. For more see: http://www.woodlandstar.net/WSblog/?cat=58

Start with the Introduction: http://www.woodlandstar.net/WSblog/?p=1829

 

I have often had the premonition that my mind is not located in my brain,that my brain is rather a receiver for signals from a higher dimension...I have however no way of proving this...but have garnered significant evidence for the the existence of the supernatural...

 

I like the idea. However, where would your mind come from if not from your brain?

 

Asking where it comes from presupposes a linear form of existence...such as space and time. If you think of existence in terms of infinity then 'where' and 'when' are questions that relate to the illusion of a finite Universe. However, it is a fair question it terms of front line discussion.

Down at the subsurface level of existence, what we see is not necessarily a reflection of how things operate. And what has to be taken into account at all levels is “effect of the observer’”. What seems to get lost in trying to communicate this little quirk of existence is that it is responsible for the entire perceived package. Without the observer there is no 3rd dimension. Is the dream state any less real than the waking state since both require an observer?

Of course you can insist that there is a linear real world just chuck full of random events that at any moment could tag you as the next victim. However, that would require ignoring what we know regarding subsurface physics. Once you start looking at the Universe as a gathering of photons you begin to understand that chaos is just not in the cards. In fact it seems almost impossible to find anything that is a random event. Even the once touted random event of radio active decay seems to lack scientific agreement about it being random: it appears to have a pattern.

So what or who does all the choreography of this magnificent state of existence? One possibility is the cooperation between photons. The photons carry the messages to construct the dance routine. Poe said it best, “All that we see or seem. Is but a dream within a dream.” The choice is yours.

Your self awareness has no limits. As an example even light takes time to traverse our galaxy. Your self awareness takes no time to do anything…you think of something (such as the far end of the milky way) and you are fundamentally there. You see, the fact is that you are already at the far end of the milky way as well as being in your home on planet earth while reading this article. You don’t need to make a trip because there is no there. The space you think of as "there" is what you (we) perceive in the dream state of life.

The where you are asking about is part of the illusion that reality is linear. But how then do you actually acquire comprehension and knowledge...it is a process of communication at the photon level of existence.

Trying to describe a photon is much like trying to describe the color blue. Essentially a photon is the most elementary part of light that can behave as either a particle or a wave. What you have to keep in mind is the duality aspect is not present at the same time. It’s behavior is determined by the circumstance at the time of observation. And what is fascinating is that life (such as yourself) is a complex arrangement of photons. So where is the ‘you’ in that amazing swirl of photons? The ‘you’ that is defined as your ‘self awareness’ is somehow linked to a specific grouping of these elementary particles which are in a sort of constant state of communication with all other photons. And that communication can occur almost instantly because the photon has no mass….it is light. Are you therefore a being of light? The concept that you are a being of light has an almost Disney like quality to it: points of light all shimmering around a beautiful forest glade. Well its a nice picture but not even close to being a representation of your self awareness. Light, like anything else in the 3rd dimension, is limited by the laws (rules) of the 3rd dimension.

In his classic book on Physics “The Dancing Wu Li Masters” Gary Zukav presents the following:

 

Asking where it comes from also presupposes an "it". The concept of the mind comes from religious origins translated into psychological explanations. It's never really been shown to exist. The brain could very well be a receiver rather than a generator of thoughts.

 

Well you, me, Tesla and Dr. Alva Noë at Berkley are starting to connect the same dots. :sunny:

 

I think young people are so smart because their ability to recieve language hasn't been filtered by society and they haven't built these patterns.

 

It, is information. The body is a communication device.

 

I'm not my brain, my brain is just another organ like my heart or kidney. It does a specific job but in they end it's only my interface and control center.

 

no. my brain is the hardware my mind runs on. even my mind is mostly user interface and operating system. the end user is my true self, and the rest of my body is/are my brain's peripherals.

what becomse of my true self when my phisical form ceases to function is uncertain. most likely it will drift, in a state of unaware suspension, until a new host is born for it to attach itself to.

this may be a matter of billions of years and its next organic host will as likely as not be born on some other world. and then with little or no true memory of having lived on this one. only my ture self will remain the same true self. born with certain preferences and inclinations, just as i had been this time.

i'm not claiming to know these details of any certainty either. only that i expect something like this might be their general outline.

true self, soul, ghost in the shell, that is the i am. the physical brain is a mechanism capable of hosting it. someday here, and almost certainly on other worlds, constructed computer-like artifacts might will exist capable of hosting it as well. then of course there is also the possibility of a succession of existences in a direction away from what we think of as physical. this latter is what at least one belief has suggested. another is that spiritual dimensions may bear a similarly skewed relationship to phisical ones as do temporal ones. each non-localized with respect to the other.

 

There's still something that perceives the information. If that's just the body then we're simply that and nothing more.

 

i quoted this one recently but here i go again. "i think therefore i am" and being i think with my brain then my brain is what i am.
however my dna that also makes up what is in my brain is also all over my body, so in conclusion any part of my body is me but i need the brain to receive the info of the rest of my body.

now if there is some remote thing sending signals to my brain then that is so fucked up that i cant believe its true. i mean if i stub my toe i am the one that feels that pain, not some douche in an alternate universe or whatever the OP is talking about.

 

The brain is both software and hardware for it controls our bodily functions but is subservient to a higher consciousness


Hotwater

 

There is no separate self as we are an agglomerate. Information is in constant exchange whether you perceive it or not. The body is limited in perception to a certain bandwidth of frequency. Your mind, is not so limited. The thing you call yourself is abstract, not a body, although you can't imagine yourself without one.

 

When you die and you give up the ghost, you will find that the body is/was the ghost.

 

I would put it the reverse: the mind is limited in perception, the body isn't (I haven't any idea whether there's a "mind", when people talk about the mind it seems to be the thing they observe and make use of). But the body as a whole has far more innate intelligence than what we call the intelligence, that's undeniable.

 

That the question can even be asked should answer your question. No other body part could have asked it or answered it. Only that part of you that recognizes you as self. The brain.

 

Well, we cannot see gamma or x-rays but we can apprehend them with devices of the mind.

 

I think we are close to proving this... that the mind works on some broader level of reality, and is received by the brain, in order to bring it into physical existence.

 

Huh? I can't apprehend any gamma rays. I wouldn't know if they're there or not. My body can perceive x-rays by being roasted if I'm under them for too long.