DubStep?

Yeah but i don't listen to it much.
I've been pretty pissed off recently so i've been listening to brostep

Oooh and i'd just like to spam my soundcloud page here:
http://soundcloud.com/kalimystik

Generally dubstep chilled and shit. Apart from the two most recent ones.

 

Does anyone on here actually produce music or actually understand sound synthesis and EDM construction?

First off. The "wobble" noise is created by sweeping the frequency range of a filter up and down the spectrum, and this can be a programmed oscillation OR done with hardware. I.E. When you apply movement to the value of the filter on a virtual synth, it's doing the same fucking thing to the unfiltered sound as a wah pedal does. The difference with using virtual (and some hardware) filters is that you can program the frequency of said filter to follow a waveform.
Now, in modern "dubstep" (not the originaly, deep, sub-bass heavy variety) most of the wobbling happens in the midrange while the actual bassline tends to be a simple, unaffected sine wave. So, while there may not be (m)any "classic rock" songs that have a wah pedal on the bassline, there are plenty that use it on the mids.*
Most virtual effects processors are meant to mimic real hardware, and the most sought after ones are emulators of classic gear from the 60s-80s, which is just another point to add against claiming that dubstep or any other EDM doesn't have roots in older music.

And second, there is a finite number of possible chord progressions that are used in popular music, so unless it falls into a clearly "experimental" genre, there has probably been a song written with the same notes in it in times gone by.
Also, art is subjective (duh) so really, the influence behind a song is*inferred by the listener. And who is to say that the producer of any particular song is fully*conscious*of all the elements in his or her brain that are leading them to create a song in this way? Most people have been inundated with countless varieties of music their entire lives, and all of this information is stored and possibly picked through (consciously or*unconsciously)*when you create new art.* There is such a huge influx of electronic music compared to the way music has been distributed in the past, which leaves a whole spectrum of music that all of you (and I) have left unexplored as of yet, so unless you have some sort of god-brain to hold all that information, claiming to be an expert on the subject is ludicrous.

So basically, guerrillabadman, stfu and go listen to some music.

 

I try and write 'dub step' but I feel like I get lost in the sounds too much and my music sounds sloppier than most dub step. Let's be honest guys, dub step is fucking hard to make sound good. You really have to know what you're doing. I'm a music major, and took a class on max MXP and logic pro. It's so difficult to get wobbles to sound good, however you do them. You can use a wah pedal of some sort or an oscillator or whatever it's called. I just know what buttons to push!

that skrillex dude sonny moore used to be in a metal band, that's why his dub step is so heavy and loud. That dub step is influenced by metal.
Bassnectar was clearly influenced by more urban music and rap and probably trip-hop. It's still dub step though. But I guess it isn't for everyone.

 

Ha yeah Sonny Moore was a screamo singer before he turned electronic, I dont even think i'd classify Skrillex as dubstep, like him or hate him his music is slightly different.

 

I like your comment. It honestly amazes me to see so many different people are closed off and closed minded when it comes to music. It's like, wake the fuck up. Theres some amazing electronica of all different types that has changed my life forever and there is a lot of shitty electronica out there just like theres a lot of shitty rock, rap, metal, whatever you listen to. Theres bound to be some bad with the good. From my experiences most people who are opened minded about different music genres and songs and bands and such dont listen to mainstream bullshit. Cause thats mostly what it is, bullshit. Especially now a days, theres so much anger and hate and violence contributed to the music produced in america. Where did all the love go? Where did all the music about unity and love for the entire human race, and all living creatures for that matter go? Its a lot harder to find now a days. It's disheartening to see how quickly we are destroying ourselves and each other through the self destructive projections of the ego. Shit if i could sing id sing my heart out but i dont have the best voice, id rather start producing my own music through different sounds and instruments and synths and just experiments music and put my love and positive vibration into the music. Thats how you spread love through music.

May we all find love through music of all kinds :2thumbsup:

 

So you talk about how close minded people are for not liking dubstep but then make a blanket statement saying all mainstream is bullshit, wow how open minded of you. One of the first Rusko songs I heard (who helped popularized dubstep), had a snippets saying something to effect 'When your soul is heading toward to the light, you know who is going to be waiting for you, not God me, and im gonna kick your pussy ass soul "

Oh yah what an expression of love...

 

Well i actually said mostly. But i see your point. Im making a generalized statement based on my experiences in life with music so far. I dont listen to the radio. Ive always hated it. Repetitive ass shit same songs over and over. I prefer to listen to up and coming artist who nobody knows. I always feel like they actually give a shit and have a message. A lot of artist that were once good artist., have sold out...and are no longer good artist in my opinion. People should be themselves and not live to satisfy a culture that is never satisfied with what they have. I feel that MOST "keyword" mainstream music is people selling out to certain fads or different things that are "hip" at the time. But hey, everyone is entitled to there own opinion. Ill respect yours.

 

Guerillabadman, I'm just gonna hazard a guess that you enjoy cutting down other people's ideas more than forming your own... You keep citing specific examples to make broad generalizations, but at the same time claim that you can't judge music based on isolated songs.

Like I said, art is subjective. You can't tell people how to perceive it.

 

Ok... I perceive dubstep as vomit shit of electronic music.

My ideas have been attempted to be cut down just as anyone else's and I feel it is completely within my rights to defend and justify my ideas if someone is going to retort back. I've been open minded and given dubstep more than enough chances to form MY ideas about it.

 

Guerilla, from the information you provided, it seems to me like you have not sampled much the wide variety of 'dubstep' out there, and based on this limited amount of information you are trying to argue that someone else's perception of this music is "wrong."

Just hecause you don't find it appealing doesn't mean others should ignore the feelings it evokes from them.

Like I keep saying, it's all how you perceive it. You don't like it, so don't listen to it. That's no reason to attack someone else for their interpretation of it. That's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

Were all cool here
we just have different opinions
i can respect everyone elses if they respect mine :]

 

I've heard this type of statement ad nauseum, 'if you don't enjoy dubstep you must not have checked out enough of it.' Look I don't enjoy dubstep enough to seek it out, I don't enjoy polka and am not going to seek it out either. I have gone to raves for several years and dubstep is played at some of the raves I have attended so it's a music that I have been privvy to enough and because of that I feel free to comment on it.

I have no problems if people enjoy dubstep, I have no problems if people enjoy polka either. Why do you feel the need to tell me to stfu and tell me that I must need to listen more if I don't like it? what is so difficult for you to accept that i don't enjoy it?

As far as interpretation, well there is reality such as the majority of dubstep producers make their music on computers and a wah pedal is usually hooked up to a guitar.

Beyond that, I have always been passionate about more in depth music reviews, analysis and discovering how various genres form. Learning bands and genres and where they descended from has helped me discover a ton of quality music.

So making a statement like 'dubstep is a branch off classic rock' based on one wobbles with computer equipment, the other wah's occasionally with guitars is a loose connection and overlooks the wide variety of music and genres: Drum n bass, 2-step, Trip Hop etc. that has a more direct influence on the dubstep genre.

 

Edit...

 

Eh man sorry I kinda jumped on you there, the information I gleaned from your posts just came off as misinformed. It appeared as if you were trying state that there was no possible connection between the two, and then used the explanation of how a wah pedal works to support this claim, however, this argument was contradictory to your point because the 'wobble' is achieved by applying the same type of effect to the sound. And again, just because you can't or didn't make the connection doesn't mean it's not there, even if it is indirect. All of the other genres you listed as predecessors to dubstep all have their roots in previous dance music, rock, blues, funk, soul etc and therefore carry that influence over. Again, it's all very subjective and specific to the artist as well as the listener.

I am in no way arguing that you 'haven't heard the right dubstep yet', it's not for everyone, and I personally can't stand the majority of it, it just seems to me like you're letting you're dislike of the genre fuel your arguments against someone else's perception of it.

 

i hate dumpstep..and i hate poplectro. the mainstreaming of electronic music is ruining the underground music. REAL dj's are getting kicked off tours for refusing to play the pop shit. there was an article in the wall street journal addressing this...hypothesizing that all these mainstream fans are going to have an effect on the underground electronic music by affecting the form..moving it from traditional to the vocal pop formula on the radio. i've been raving since the late 90's..and while i will admit that when i got there all the heads were complaining about the noobs (myself included) ruining the scene and culture for them...it's gotten 100 times worse now that the mainstream industry has tried to latch onto it again (i haven't forgotten about the early 90's radio techno "explosion"). the link is here

The Dumbing Down of Electronic Dance Music
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303830204577446842134707610.html

and another article was spawned from this article

Is America Killing Dance Music?
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/53105/Is_America_killing_dance_music

p.s. skrillex blows LOL

 

p.s. Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Whathever you like. It might be nice to some and shit to others, who cares?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_SQO3vv3p8"]Thomas Middleditch's Disgusting Dub Step Drop - YouTube

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orqPtNOO6_U"]Rusko - Skanker - YouTube

 

British/European dubstep for the win, biznizzynitches.