What would you recommend for first time with opiates?

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by FlyingFly, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. FlyingFly

    FlyingFly Dickens

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    I want to experience this feeling of calmness, warmth.
    What would you recommend? Maybe some medicine? I don't want to take it IV.
     
  2. BottleFED

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    Whats your drug history as far as recreation? If nothing connects to opiates, then I would think you have no Tollerance. In that case I would start where most start, Hydrocodone (This link well help you Identify pretty much all Hydrocodone pills - http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php?action=search&drugname=hydrocodone ). Having said that, where do you feel your ability to refrain from getting sucked into a habit? I ask because if you allow Opiates into your life, it will only be a matter of time to get yourself dependent or addicted, and that my friend is BAD, any way you look at it. You have to be smart if this is for recreation. If you can keep yourself to weekends only, you have a better chance of not getting sucked in.
    Ok, so you get yourself some Meds with Hydrocodone, its going to be 5, 7.5 or 10 MGs per pill depending on what you get. As a first timer, when I started, i started on 10MGs and had to move to 20MGs just due to my natural tollerance, however some people only require 5 MGs their first time to feel the affects. If you start anywhere between those two you will be fine, I suggest trying 10MGs if your body weight is below 200lbs, if more, you can play it by ear, meaning if you take 10MGs and after 30 minutes you dont feel it, take one more. One other thing you need to take into consideration when dealing with Hydro in pill form is Acetaminophen which u will find in most all your hydro pills. Its nothing more than Tylenol. Problem is, Your liver begins to hate High doses of it which can easily be reached on a large dose of Hydro. the max limit per day is about 4000MGs. Dose that mean 3700 a day, everyday is ok, absolutely NOT! I used to always insure I never went over 3000MGs. Anyway, once you get your pill or pills, asuming you are getting them from a friend and not a perscription, take the pills, look at the link and see what you have, it will always be listed as 5/325 or 10/500.....etc first number being MGs of Hydro and 2nd number being MGs of Tylenol. Hope this helps, if not ask questions here.....!
     
  3. FlyingFly

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    Thanks for long and precise info.

    I have never took any opiates before, only psychedelics.

    I don't plan to make it a habit, I want to try it and see how it feels like and if I like it, I might take it once in a while with weeks to months long breaks.

    Are there any avaiable without prescribtion?

    What things should I avoid while taking them? I guess mixing it with alcohol and other drugs is a bad idea. What about antidepressants?
    Especially Venlafaxine and Trazodone.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venlafaxine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trazodone
     
  4. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html

    this is a useful tool when checking interactions between drugs.

    in canada you can buy tylenol with small amounts of codeine at a pharmacy, but that's about it. anything else you're going to have to get from a doctor or a drug dealer. or a friend who had their wisdom teeth out or something and didn't finish their meds.
     
  5. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Opiates are hugely addictive. For many people. I don't know you in anyway, and I 100% understand your curiosity. I think it is only natural for people who enjoy altering their mind to want to try it in many ways, its awesome!

    You could try opium if you can find it. It is difficult for me to get. Only ever had it once. A lot easier to get is low dose pain medications. To start out I would try hydrocodone or percocet.

    Check out erowid for information and search the forums right here!
     
  6. techn1

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    I doubt anybody ever "planned" on making drugs a habit,but it happens.If I only had the smarts I have now back when I was curious I wouldn't have been so curious,,,maybe.
    Be sure to look not only at only the "warmth and calmness" part of opiates,take a good look at the "chaos and trainwrecks" they COULD cause too before you commit.
    But if you're still sure,listen to BottleFED and the others,start low,stay safe, and only use occasionally.
     
  7. Brady_to_Moss

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    first time..i wouldn't do anything more than hydrocodone..or hell even codeine

    10 mg of hydrocodone should be plenty
     
  8. Bluez_Snooze

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    i was scripted opiates for 5 years, and hydrocodone is one of the few opiates i haven't tried. i started on oxycodone, and 15mg would get me off. some people are sensitive to opiates though, so i'd start really low in dose.

    if you get ahold of an opiate, i suggest you come on here to tell us what it is, and we can help recommend a dose.
     
  9. happydude_60

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    Well, this is just my opinion, and I know many others will disagree, but if you want to enjoy the opiate high on it's own, don't mix it with anything. Some people mix it with things like weed or xannies, but I wouldn't. Alcohol and Hydrocodone make you feel great, but unfortunately you're not supposed to mix ANY alcohol with APAP (Tylenol). Also, and I don't mean to be a buzz-kill, but I wouldn't mess with it at all unless you have a legitimate medical reason. But if you feel you need to try it, yes Hydrocodone is a good one. It provides a nice warm glowy buzz for a few hours, and it's not very sedating, at least until it wears off. To get the most out of it take it without food. Some people experience nausea their first few times taking it, and of course it can cause constipation, but if you don't do it very often and don't take large doses you should be fine. But tolerance and addiction go hand in hand, so when you notice that it starts to take more to get the same effect, you're already at least mildly addicted.
     
  10. p0rkch0p

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    i agree on the hydrocodone, my first fun with opies was the tussinex the dr prescribes for "smokers cough" or bronchitis, made me some lean and got my lean on, lol
     
  11. BuckStacyBuck

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    a couple percocet or vicodin for your first time should be fine.
    the 5 mg ones
     
  12. SpENS93

    SpENS93 Illuminati

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    vicodin (hydrocodone)
     
  13. Deranged

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    I thought opium was better than any pill or even than snorting h. You just have to find it and smoke it right. Put a ball on a thumb tack light it on fire till its burning pretty good. Blow it out so its smoking but not on fire. Put a glass over top of the ope. Wait for glass to fill with smoke then slide it to the edge of a table and inhale the smoke. Smoking ope any other way isnt even worth it
     
  14. happydude_60

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    That's a good method. I've smoked hash that way many times, although instead of a tack I used a needle stuck into a piece of cardboard.
     
  15. china__white

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    If the old school oxy existed I would say that!
    If its a first time anything will have a effect. Probably cause a bit of sickness before your body gets used to it.
     
  16. Deranged

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    Opium is the only drug i like better than weed. Its addicting as shit so as with any physically addicting drug it should be done infrequently enough to not get hooked
     
  17. eggsprog

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    aka bottle tokes
     

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