judaism, islam and religious "christianity"

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    islam, judaism, and that which calls herself 'christianity':

    religions of this world and all alike they are,
    they have fought, killed, and died near and far;

    then once a week or multiples times a day they pray,
    and then as hypocrites begin each new day;

    a day filled with deceit and lies,
    for in such religious systems Truth cannot abide;

    and so the fruit of death is born of their religious ways,
    because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play:-(


    The Messiah testified, "Whoever lives and believes in Me shall
    never die." And then He questioned, "Do you believe this?"

    Quite simple really. Do you believe in Life or death?

    All who believe in death, believe death is an answer to many
    of their "life" problems, and so they will fight, war and kill in
    their vain attempts to bring such problems to an end.

    Seems that wherever they go or whatever they do "The Answer"
    to their problem remains hidden from them, and so they continue
    to "steal, kill, and destroy", as they follow author of death, "the
    father of lies".

    Peace remains but an empty word to those who believe in death,
    and "The Life" remains but a wishfilled thought:-(

    www.ASpiritualJourney.Org following The Way to The Truth of The Life.

    peace, even as war(carnal and spiritual) rages....... francisco
     
  2. thumontico

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    Francisco... ooo thats fun to say... Francisco
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

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    What about Hindus - are we hypocrites too?Fransisco - I'm askin' you
     
  4. Francisco

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    now why the need to ask that question?

    could it be because one religious system
    is but the darker side of another?

    can Spirit be systemitized?

    and Liberty, have you received the gift?
    or do you yet serve time in the prison
    that is this wicked, evil world?

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
     
  5. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    francisco stands against much... what does he stand for?
     
  6. BlackBillBlake

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    I put this question because you named the three Abrahamic religions. I wondered if you felt the same way about other spiritual paths, such as Hinduism and Buddhism.

    You ask if the Spirit can be systemized - the answer is no. But ways to the Spirit can, up to a point be systemized.

    You ask if I have received the gift - since you don't say what the gift is, I assume you mean liberation, or at least non-attachment. All of us who have a body are 'serving time', as you put it, although I would put it differently.
    There is evil and wickedness in the world, but also much that is good.
     
  7. Francisco

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    sad, for the delusion is so strong, so many deluded:-(((((((

    what is the world?

    is it not the systematic enslavement of the multitudes?
    and the delusion so strong that the prisoners believe they are free?

    is not this world the epitamy of man's foolishess?
    kinda like "we the people", we can do it... do what?
    "steal, kill and destroy" or worse yet, delude to the utmost.

    the "world" is the product of man's vanity..period..

    however, Creation's Genius yet testifies to The Power of The Creator, and
    defines the intent and purposes of The Great Spirit.

    and simplicity rejoices against the complexity and confusion of this world
    which is running hell bent to destruction.

    those who "see" are invited to experience ASpiritualJourney.Org

    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    peace, even as war(spiritual/carnal rages)....... francisco
     
  8. BlackBillBlake

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    But what you mean by 'the world' is the human world, only actually a tiny and infinitessimal part of the cosmos. And perhaps not even that, but only a part of the human world (western civilization).

    I would like also to know what you mean by saying that 'Creation's genius yet testifies to the power of the creator and defines the intent and purposes of the Great Spirit' because to me that sounds like just a bit of rhetoric, with little actual comtent of meaning that can be grasped.
    But then, you go on to say that this world is running towards destruction.
    Perhaps this particular human civilization could be seen that way, but its by no means certain.
    Your attitude seems to me to be very negative and pessimistic. And what hope can there be, if there is breath or not in a world which you seem to say is intrinsically evil?
     
  9. geckopelli

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    All the pharses francisco utters are designed to create the illusion of wisdom and understanding, without bearing the burden of substance. Standard religious engineering practices. He can't explain the meaning because the meaning is a purpose, not a definition.

    Check out the indicated site. Franisco is just presenting himself as another breed of homo-centric creationist.
     
  10. Francisco

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    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!
    the world has no breath, it only knows of and believes in death.

    and the intent and purpose of The Creator? Life.

    simplicity, not i, testifies of a wicked, evil world.

    easy to "see" for the simple minded.
    easy to "see" you are not of us.

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    and for those not of this world there is:

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
     
  11. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    He's an angry elf....lol
     
  12. BlackGuardXIII

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    Just curious why you didn't answer the question? what about other faiths? I am curious too, to hear your views, if you are willing to state them. I see much that is very bad coming up, and my critical analysis says unequivically, we are doomed, undeniably, and very soon.
    I will not ever give up hope, though, no matter how bad it gets.
    Never.
     
  13. BlackGuardXIII

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    easy for you maybe........
     
  14. geckopelli

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    Non-sensical ravings from a fanatic.
    He'll answer no questions.

    "francisco" is a pale attempt by a regular poster to mimick a successful demonstration of religious engineering that has occured previously on this board.

    I'm a world class poker player, and I can spot a bluff a mile away.

    It's no go, "francisco".
     
  15. Disarm

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    Who would want to leave all the good ones out ;) Hindus can be the dark side of Islam, cause it kinda sounds the same.
     
  16. BlackGuardXIII

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    I don't get it, but hey, its all good.
     
  17. Disarm

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    Blackbillblake: What about Hindus - are we hypocrites too?Fransisco - I'm askin' you
    Wait a second! Hindu and Islam doesnt sound the same! :( More similar than Christianity and Judaism though. I think that's why I wrote it.
     
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    Don't like the sound of that much.
    But actually, your reply failed to address the points I made.
     
  19. BlackBillBlake

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    Hinduism is not really that similar to Islam. Islam has much more in common with Judeo-Christianity, and arguably, its derived from the same roots. Muhamad met jews and christians, they influenced him. Hinduism, on the other hand is regarded by many Muslims as idolatry, a gross misunderstanding.
     
  20. Francisco

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    "what about other faiths?"

    the posting was concerning "religious systems",
    Faith will not create a system nor will The
    Faithful create a religion.

    yet we will share that which we have seen(experienced)
    and heard(received).

    and so ASpiritualJourney.Org

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
     
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