I love my little brother

You've got no idea, bullying is far from the worst of it


Aside from that though, not breeding is a good option, more people should adopt

 

hmm makes me wonder... what was your first post Glen?

 

if that's the worst thing that ever happened to your brother, he's the luckiest man in the world.

 

I guess I was raised more old school but if I ever would have hit a girl, even at age 8, I would've had a few wooden spoons broken over my ass.

 

Glen, you need to take a look at your own cancer ridden gene pool and consider finding the nearest waste treatment plant and drowning yourself in a pool of fecal matter.

 

I want many children ugh ouch but still I feel bullying is a part of life everyone goes through it it's the first taste or shoud be the first taste of how disgusting human beings can be and why it's important to be the wolf and not the sheep

 

That's very unfair. It's nice to see the world has changed. There is no such thing as the "good old days".

I'm glad this horrific anti-boy sexism is fading in intensity.

A boy should be allowed to treat a girl like another boy.

I believe a boy should be taught from an early age to treat adult women more gently and give them more space than adult men. This will train him to become a gentleman and good husband when he grows up. However, no boy should ever be expected to treat a little girl differently from a little boy if/when such gender-different treatment is provided based solely on the genders of the little kids.

If a little boy is allowed to make physical contact [such as rough-play] with another little boy, he should be allowed make the same physical contact with a little girl without being condemned for "hitting/touching a girl".

Chivalry should be reserved for grown women, not little girls. Men/boys should be allowed to publicly-treat a little girl in the same way they are allowed to publicly-treat a little boy -- without being condemned for "hitting girls". If a little girl doesn't like being treated like a little boy, then she should simply be told to be patient and wait till adulthood to expect any chivalry from men/boys.

Little girls are not better-behaved or weaker than little boys. As children, girls are just are tough as boys.

There is nothing special about a child being a girl. Girls are no more precious than boys.

On average, the adult woman:

1. Is physically weaker than the adult man
2. Is more emotional than the adult man
3. Is better behaved than the adult man
4. Is far more likely to be a victim of opposite-gender violence [e.g. violence may be sexual, domestic, or spousal abuse] than the adult man
5. Can get or be pregnant whereas the adult man can't
6. Is physically more delicate than the adult man

I therefore understand that:

1. Women need - and should be provided with - more protection against men, than visa versa
2. Women need - and should be provided with - more protection against men, than adults of the same gender from each other

However, the same does not apply to boy-child vs. girl-child.

In addition, science has already proven that average girl-child is NOT *innately*:

1. Weaker
2. More sensitive
3. More delicate
4. Lower-IQed
5. Slower
6. Less energetic
7. Less aggressive
8. Less violent
10. More tense
11. More emotional
12. Less emotionally-stable
13. More compassionate
14. More mature in personality
15. Less mischievous
16. Less naughty
17. Less resilient

... than the average boy-child of the same age. In addition, she is not more likely to be mistreated by males [of any age] than he is.


I believe males of all ages should be gentle and polite to adult women and to give adult women more space than adult men. This will give men/boys a respect for adult women and will help prevent these males from perpetrating domestic violence against their wives and girlfriends. However, males -- of any age -- should never be taught or expected to treat girl-children better than boy-children.

 

should? yes. a lot of things SHOULD happen that don't happen. Don't have kids if you don't want kids but are you trying to turn this into a debate on how boys get treated unfairly or what?

 

Ever since humans formed a society separate from their non-human ancestors, this society HAS treated boys unfairly based on gender alone.

The best time and place for boy-children is modern USA.

The worst anti-boy sexism is present in cultures that are fundamentalist [such as the KKK, taliban, and nazis], non-western [such as Russia], or impoverished [such as Mexico and India].

In any culture, the further back you go in its history, the more intense the anti-boy sexism.

Non-human societies are far more civilized than the human society. Non-human civilizations don't treated their children better or worse based on gender. Non-humans don't gain pleasure from harming others.

Anyways, here is how the 'anti-boy sexism' I describe started:

It most likely started more than thousands of years ago with a small gang of strong macho men [the only male homo-sapien humans existing at the time] who decided that they would treat girls better than boys. The gang singled out male individuals and forced them to follow and enforce this rule -- they left the females alone. These male individuals joined the gang and -- out of extreme fear -- began following and enforcing the gang's pro-girl, anti-boy rules. More and more male individuals began joining this gang -- out of fear for their own safety -- and submitting to their oppressive anti-boy regime. This is how the anti-boy, pro-girl gang got bigger. Members of this gang began teaching their boy-children -- likely through extreme corporal punishments -- to follow these sexist rules and pass these rules onto the next generation of children. Fathers who didn't teach their boy-children to follow this sexism were singled out by the gang [which was now big enough to be considered a society] and horrifyingly mistreated along with their helpless sons.

This is my theory as to why society discriminates against boys. This sexism exists for the same reason many other irrational, un-natural societal norms exists -- they are followed and enforced out of fear of facing social condemnation.

This historical gang of humans I describe pretty much had similar rules of most of today's street gangs. If they want you, they force you to join, and if you try to leave, they torture and kill you. If they see you and don't want you, they torture and kill you regardless of your actions.

Once again, this gender discrimination is not at all innate or instinctive. It is an example of learned behavior that is practiced out of fear and shame.

 

there are pros and cons of being a girl and there are pros and cons of being a boy. Both sides can be taken to an extreme. i didnt read all that but i think you're reading into shit too much. you might be a troll though so idk.

 

Has anyone ever thought of the consequences of the sexism against little boys I described? How it can actually be counter-productive to the protection of little girls?

Here is an example of how.

Let's say a little boy notices men treating little girls better than little boys. He feels extreme indignation because -- if the adults in charge are men -- girls have a free pass to do pretty much whatever they want to that poor helpless boy. If the boy hits back, then men admonish him for "hitting a girl". If the boy reports the bullying, the men admonish him for being weak enough to be "beat up by a girl". This no-win situation can drive a child crazy. It can make the little boy hate men and the little girls they defer to. What if the boy grows up with such repressed rage against men, society, and little girls? There is a high-risk that he will become depressed and contemplate suicide. Realizing that he might end his life, then he will figure he has nothing to lose by retaliating against society. In his retaliation against the macho male culture, he might end up heinously-abusing and killing many little girls before taking his own life. He might also end up injuring/killing even more girls in the process of committing suicide.

Sorry if this is disturbing but it's reality. Discrimination against one group of children can indirectly lead to danger to the other group of children.

You all may want to ask, if the boy grows up hating men for treating girls better than him, then why does he target little girls to "get even" with society? Why doesn't he limit his physical attacks to macho men?

Here is why. The little boy grows up thinking that the only way to punish the men who ruined his early-childhood is to hurt little girls. Is this fair or right? Absolutely not. However, this is the psychological state in which the little boy grows up with.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no fan of the "abuse excuse". However, if a little boy is abused by men who favor little girls, he will likely develop the belief that the only way to give himself justice against those evil men is to abuse little girls.

At the end of the day, anyone being mistreated by anyone is wrong and [ideally] should never happen.

 

8 year old kids don't fully understand the consequences of their actions. We all learn from our mistakes.

The only part of this story that bothers me is that the 17 year old "attacked" an 8 year old. WTF, why were police not called and charges laid?

It also sounds to me like you are the one with gender issues. If you have kids, they are your kids. You will be responsible for teaching them how to act. So instead of worry about your non-existent son hitting a girl and getting in trouble, how about just teaching him not to hit people in general?
Kids go through all kinds of shit, they turn out just fine in the end. What they need is teaching and support from loved ones, not dwelling on things that happened 20 years ago.

 

The 17-year-old didn't physically-injure my little brother. He just got really close to my brother with a threatening demeanor and told him something to the effect of "you'll be sorry the next time you mess with my little sister."

 

did we find the OP's alter ego?

 

If a 17 year old threatened my 8 year old, a report would be made and he would get a warning from police in front of his parents.

Nip it in the bud, or let it fester until you are afraid to have children because of it. I would choose the former.

 

The key word there is average.

Especially when you get to 4. Thats not really as one way as you'd like to believe

And 5, getting pregnant isnt a concern for a man, but 20 years of childsupport payments are. So its not like that caution doesnt enter there mind

And as for 6. Should should maybe visit Australia, see what the women here look like


Back to teens, for some reason, over the last decade, rate of violent crime commited by teen girls has escalated across most of the West. Compared to older or same age males that might not mean that much. But when its younger males concerned it is. When its a pack of 14 year old girls vs an 8 year old boy it means a lot. And cos its changed it means something different now compared to when you were a teen, or back when I was.

Then of course there is what you mentoned in your original story; the girls getting older guys to bully them.

In the case with your little brother, it may have just been bullying, but if it had been more, he wouldnt have told you. Because if he'd come to you or anyone complaing that girl and some of her friends were getting him to play doctors and nurses. From you, his mum, every other older woman it would have been this all girls are made of sugar and spice garbage, and from older guys it would just be along the lines of 'dont be a pussy'

But even if it was just bullying its still a case of her ,a girl, his age to get an older guy twice his size to threaten him. Its still the threat of violence, even though its not direct, its still a matter of he's got to do what she says next time or her older brother is going to beat the crap out of him


So you are just as guilty as anyone else if you are going to try to maintain that all girls are the same. When he knows better

One minute you are saying you are guilty as to how this girl manipulated him. The next minute you are making out all girls are delicate vulnerable victims.

Isnt it just horrid how women get objectified all the time by guys that are way out of their league. Ends up sounding like viral mass delusion

 

I am thankful for all of the times I got the shit beat outta me when I was a kid. I was bullied for being fat in high school I got in a lot of fights because I have a sharp tongue.

Society doesn't necessarily see women the way you describe. Maybe in some areas...and there are still shitbags out there that beat women, but I'll take on any man any day of the fuckin week if he tries to lay a hand on me.

Its all about how you're raised as a kid. If you're raised to be tough and stand up for what you believe, that's how it will go. Having a kid with the perfect life and the perfect upbringing doesn't necessarily make them a better person in the long run. Its the ones that are strong enough to grab society by the balls, absolutely fearless, that make it somewhere; The ones that know what defeat is like. That goes for man or woman.

As an adult, I told my husband...if I were ever to get completely irrational, where I'm being violent - to hit me. Put me out. I don't think I'm weaker than him or more inferior in any sense.

Men and women are totally different, yes, but when it comes to kids, boys don't have the testosterone yet that can make them physically stronger than girls. I had the shit beat outta me by a boy when I was young. And honestly, I'm thankful for the experience and I totally fuckin deserved it.

 

That's how life works. I had a knife held to my neck by a teenager when i was in kindergarten. I didn't run to my parents, i plotted and got even. Things like that made me tough, and I'm thankful for that because this is a merciless world.

Goddamn you are over analyzing this topic to death. Girls are treated differently because there are biological differences no matter how you intellectualize it. And there is no way that any girl could've hung mentally or physically with my friends and I growing up. We were wild and destructive, while the girls were hanging out on their driveways setting up imaginary homes and what not. The 80s were so pure looking back on it.

 

If all males were soft, sensitive, emotional, passive, and weak, this would be a much better place for little boys.

That teenager who threatened you with a knife was probably a future pedophile who gains pleasure from harming pre-pubescent children.

To expect a kindergarten boy to defend himself against a high-school-age boy? You're insane.

These differences take place during adulthood, not childhood.

Society should allow a boy to treat a girl like another boy. Much as you hate this equality, it's happening and getting more thanks to feminism.

BTW, I am a radical feminist. I'm glad feminism is spreading around the world and rescuing little boys from the horrors of old-school machismo.

With more and more boys having women as caretakers, these boys are now being allowed to defend themselves against evil girls. Male caretakers side with girls over boys. Thank God, society frowns upon men babysitting pre-pubescent children. Last thing we need is more boys enduring the psychological suffering my little brother experienced.

The tyrannical "don't hit girls" rule is a product of society's ancient machismo. I'm glad this horrible element of society is being replaced more and more by the civility of feminism.

Patriarchal societal norms are the worst enemies of little boys. We need matriarchy and we will eventually get it.

 

Nothing to do with Feminism. Schoolyard politics are basic and primal and a lot of it occurs away from adult eyes. Society should allow? It has nothing to do with it.

What you've said there is circular. Differences between sexes occur in adulthood, not childhood, before the big burst of testosterone. But there is an change inn equality. At that age some girls gang up on boys, some boys fight with girls, some are left alone cos they are very timid. There are always some girls that will be the bullies, thats the way its always been

Vast majority of problems I had from age 5 and up were from older chics, that 12-15 range especially as well as adult women. And I cant think of a single instance non family related where I had to face that stupid fake male machismo in a situation that wasnt started by a chic. Either to freak out her boyfriend, make up stuff to get the boyfriend angry and jealous, or to get attention, or to feed her vanity

That doesnt make any sense. What do you think the evil girls grow up to be?

That doesnt make any sense either, your little brothers problem was started by a chic his age. Probably cos she liked him, he didnt like her back, so she bullied him, and then got the older brother twice his size to do so as well

When I was a little boy my worst enemies were bored skanky teen girls. When I was a teen my worst enemies were bored skanky housewives that dont give it to their husbands so the husbands keep paying for stuff, couldnt get guys there own age so would turn to younger more seemingly vulnerable males.


Not that it really matters in the end, Whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger as the saying goes. But feminism and equality is always going to be at least in part to do with other chics. No use just blaming the guys for everything and sticking your head in the sand when it comes to other females.

With your little brother, it all started with a CHIC