All Things Psychic..or Not

Discussion in 'Psychic' started by old_crone, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. old_crone

    old_crone Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Had a dream. Been chewing on it for awhile. When I woke this morning, this seemed a perfect day to give life to the dream.

    The Dream was about starting a thread to discuss Psychic Energy. How does the Psychic energy work. How individuals assist or feed the Psychic energy. What different terms mean and so on and so on. If you have the question you also have the answer inside you. As we take the mystery out of the "WOW" power, we will be able to open to our own self empowerment, healing, and connections. We will learn to get out of our way so we might see in the darkness of what we do not understand.

    So to begin with; What does "Psychic" mean?

    Psychic is to see. Every living thing will see through different levels of awareness and understanding. We will see others with the same shallowness or depth we see and understand within our selves. So to see the proverbial fly in the bull shit we must know what is the fly and what is not. Until we know what is ours and what is not we will mix and mesh psychic energy creating a smoke screen of illusion. Here in this place generalities and truth are a bit like watered down ice cream. To stay pure in the intent is to be the observer, not the god on a soap box looking for followers. Just as one says in energy healing, "OH, Healer...first heal thyself." I believe To See, one must not fear their own hearts, and face themselves first. This is about Respect, Honor, Truth, and discernment.

    Sometimes one must close their eyes, and open their hearts so they might truly see what is before them. Here in this place of seeing Vulnerability becomes our greatest strength.

    So have you got a question? Do you want to help create this dream?
     
  2. usedtobehoney

    usedtobehoney Senior Member

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    This is great. Thank you for sharing. I have experienced some of the same thoughts, which is not surprising at all, but nice to see it articulated so well.

    I guess if I were to ask a question it would be about how to observe and how to interpret what is observed and steer clear of illusion. I know we all have intuition and in some ways my intuition is stronger than a lot of people I know personally. They want me to tell them things and I always used to, but now, I feel overwhelmed because I see people claiming that their intuition tells them to do things that are clearly wrong and that their intuition tells them things about me that are wrong and obviously projections.

    I also have trouble with the idea that psychic abilities demand action. Saying something, doing something. And that sometimes it is much easier to see for someone else than for yourself, and I'd like to be able to observe for myself and interpret the information I really need without getting too attached to the outcome which really thwarts the whole being able to sense subtle energies.
     
  3. old_crone

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    Hi Usedtobehoney

    There are several ways to "See" clearly or to remain the observer.
    1. The triangle method.
    Draw a triangle with the point on top. So as you are facing the computer screen you see the wide bottom at the bottom. Number the points of the triangle. Looking straight ahead at your triangle the bottom left corner is 1. this is what you imagine and what you think. Across the bottom to the right the next corner is #2. This is your place of creation. The place you begin to manifest that which you think and imagine. Point #3 is the top point. This becomes Your Truth and how you perceive the information you are wallowing in, living in, or taking on as your own.

    To remain the observer know what these things are inside you first. For Example: I go to a reader and say I keep having this dream of trees in the forest running away from me and I feel alone. Somewhere inside me in the place of quiet I know what this means but am afraid to "See" clearly or wish for another answer. The reader looks at me and says The dream is about not drinking wine before bed and telling you to stay away from spicy foods." In my heart I know this is wrong because I do not drink wine and can not eat spicy foods...BUT I am so glad I have an answer I can face and now I am no longer responsible because the Reader "Sees". Here I just stopped facing my own truth knowing the symbol of the trees running away is about me not facing my own power and truth inside me. I also just used my emotions as a weapon not a tool because I entered a place of judgement. If I am to remain the observer I must put all the cards on the table and See..not judge the information. An abuser only has the power a victim gives them.

    2. The Mirror Reflection.
    Here write what you are dealing with on a piece of paper. Now go quiet inside and lay the piece of paper over you tummy. Your body will see. Do not make up information just state what comes through. For Example; One of the reasons It took me this long to start this post was because I felt the fear many would have because in order to grow they would have to face their own hearts. This also meant I would have to Go Deeper inside my own and I was comfortable with where I was at. Stagnation has a price, and some times the cost is to high.

    3. Use the Pendulum Method.
    Here get a pendulum. You start out with drawing a circle. Hold the pendulum above the circle and say, "Give me a yes. The pendulum will swing in one direction. Then say give me a no. The pendulum will swing in a direction. Now you know yes and no. Ask a question. See which way the pendulum swings. One question that will offer you insight is, "Is this energy mine?" Because you are an Empath you will need clearly defined lines so as to not get drawn into the collective energy. When ever a person uses Their own energy they will become quickly depleted and often experience illness or dis-ease within their own hearts.

    4. The Breath Energy.
    Here you pay attention to the Journey of the breath. Have your intent clear. Pause As you slowly take in your breath think on your intent. When you are full pause in stillness and as you slowly let the breath out observe what comes through. Energy is energy is energy. All things come from energy and will return to energy. We are the ones who chop up labels and try to define our lives by the labels and not by who we are. We are Spirit having a human experience, not humans trying to be spirit. We come here to grow beyond what we know and to face the consequences of what we are capable of.

    5. The Nerf Ball
    Here Rub the palms of your hands together. You are getting out of your way and allowing the energy to communicate with you. Slowly pull the palms of your hands apart. Its as if you can feel the energy form a ball. Close your eyes and see your energy ball and much like a crystal ball , with your eyes closed read what you see, feel, think, and the symbols that come through. For Example; I rubbed my hands together, closed my eyes and saw these bluejeans and sandel like shoes. They look good on you. I knew you have to feel comfortable both inside and out to get through your day or you end up on overload and with a headache. Hard to explain why its people that drive you crazy and not the world around you. Its that Empath nature of yours coming through. Your natural element is water. This will be your healing place.

    People set up false memories, missing memories, and warped symbols because on some level they are afraid to face the simple truth. When something Resonates with you pay attention. If the words or energy does not resonate The truth simply stated is Know what is your and what is not and walk away. Be Your Own Reader in the matter of your heart. Read your reader you sit with and sit with no one who does not know who they are. When a person does a shallow reading, broken record reading, or plays the guessing game this is only a reflection of how they "SEE" their own hearts. Everything is personal and nothing is. Psychic abilities do not always demand action. When you know who you are you can step back, learn to be still, send love and blessings and move on. Do not act like lint in a dryer wanting to get attached to anything that moves. Getting attached does not validate your worth, ability, or depth. Often in an investigation, healing, or reading the break down in clarity comes from getting emotionally involved. Here the information becomes cloudy and distorted. Know your own symbols and work from a place of Discernment, not from the ego.

    This is also how you learn to see clearly for yourself. For me the smell of cigar smoke reminds me of my dad. So when I am doing a reading and I smell cigar smoke I pause do the breath energy and ask is this my dad. I will get an answer, and often it is just the symbol the person coming through wants me to know because they are the dad of the one I am reading for. For example; While reading your comment and questions I keep getting this image of a wheel chair and the smell of lavender. I pause and know for me these symbols mean you have someone who as they say, crossed over before their time, and they are with someone they love on the other side. She is an older woman who liked flowers and the energy of family together. She just smiles but the male energy associated with the wheel chair say..."Its ok to be you. You are special. Our love is with you." The older woman with white hair opens her hand and a tiny silver necklace with a silver cross rest in her palm. Its as if she is extending a part of herself to you. She says you are a lot like her.

    When ever doing a reading out of love compassion and respect for your own heart and abilities walk in detachment, and discernment....not dis-ease, and chaos. All we are can be used as a weapon against us or a tool for us. We may cry for peace, but until we become peace, we are part of the problem not the solution. So start a journal of your own symbols so the information coming through can speak with you not at you. This is a bit like creating a sign language you both understand. The other side only has the power we give them. We in the flesh retain the power of how we choose to interact.
     
  4. lovelyxmalia

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    beautiful post, crone! And great information!

    Keeping a journal helps me a lot. Things come out that I didn't even know I was thinking or feeling - and I enter a meditative state that brings out more things I didn't realize about myself.

    Keeping a psychic journal for the questions that resonate and the realizations that you aren't sure of - the messages, also helps. Listen to the messages within yourself and distinguish what they are later on.
     
  5. usedtobehoney

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    Yes...that is absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much. I used to keep a journal but I left it behind when I left and have not felt up to starting a new one...I get attached. I will however, start a new one today.

    Also, I have given readings on and off. I never do them when I feel unwell so I take significant breaks. Earlier this year I did some readings and I had this feeling about a separation between a client who asked for a joint chart. Instead of telling her about that, I told her about what would be necessary to improve their relationship and the core of their path together. Just recently they broke up and I had feelings of guilt that I didn't say more and emphasize the importance. At the same time I felt a blockage from him that he wouldn't really be participating anyway.

    I abandon my path when I feel uneasy about the messages I'm getting and the role it plays in people's lives. Sometimes I feel like it's not enough, I should do more... I'm too attached. I start to see what will happen after they receive my reading and feel like it's pointless, they're still going to experience pain, they're not going to understand what I meant until after it happens, etc.

    I really feel that what you've written has gotten me on path again though, those tips resonate with me extremely well. It was somewhat disturbing to me also when I got a random reading and that also factored in me abandoning everything.

    As for that message...I couldn't figure it out at first. I was thinking of who it could've been, trying to think of what would be more obvious connections. Suddenly it hit me, there is a woman I am so much alike. Her hands were always so amazing to me. I had an experience with her a few years ago, after her death in which she aided me in connecting more to nurturing self-love. Not sure who the man is.

    Anyway, thank you so much for this. What you have written about people needing to face their depth is how I also feel in relation to my inner world and bringing it out and sharing. I see a reflection of myself shying away from my power when I see that those I read for are doing the same. Maybe its a reciprocating pattern.
     
  6. old_crone

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    Usedtobehoney
    As an Empath , {which means one who feels deeply others awareness and experiences} the longing to fix things moves you into the position of sharing in the collective energy and taking responsibility for the choices made. This is a hard place to come from. In a reading Never take the one you are reading personal choices away from them. You are not there to fix them or the problem or the situation. That is theirs. Your job as a reader is to open the tool box inside them and self empower them to see their choices and the consequences they are drawing to them. What they do with the information you see is Theirs...not yours.

    Because I work a lot with energy in both healing and readings I understand setting boundaries...not limits. This keeps one focused and the Intent clear.

    Lets define "Reading" This is where you see and share what you get if you are the reader. If you are the sitter you face the information and take what resonates with you. Here the Reader should never use their own energy because their own energy is tainted with their emotions and unresolved issues. This is where pocket energy comes from. Pocket energy is these places of burst of energy that spontaneously erupt. They hold emotions and pain, fear, and so on. Readings can be any thing from auras, to past present future, and healing insights or information that synchronicity lays in our path, to medium ship, channeling and on and on.

    Because as an Empath you also have the ability to time travel. This means you can be in more than one place at a time and often in several places at the same time. Time becomes warped. Some readers are more like Shape Shifters and change form. There are different strengths and possibilities that go with the type of reader one is. This again is why you as a reader are not in the reading to fix the one you are reading. Their choices are their choices.

    Thank you for being so open and sharing not only your struggles but the blessings as well you have experienced.

    And Lovelyxmalia, Thank you for your thoughts as well. I like your aura. It looks like the northern lights, and feels like soft feathers. Your energy is like a song on a dark night. These things tell me you are a sensitive and rivers of information run deep within you. People do not often see the whole of you. Love has not come easy yet you stand your ground ever searching your soul. You are a natural healer, dreamer and amazing as butterflies in a garden.

    Again Thank You both for sharing in this dream.
     
  7. lovelyxmalia

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    Thank you for the kind words!

    I am a sensitive and I've been on a spiritual journey these past few years, trying to unlock my intuition and feel the signs of the world around me. I always knew I was different, I just didn't know how to explain the difference until now.

    But people do not often see the whole of me. As a matter of fact, I had a psychic a few months ago tell me I had a wall up. I found it to be funny.

    Usedtobehoney, I suggest keeping a journal again. Especially for your "down phases." You will continually learn about yourself through writing your experiences and I think you'd be more likely to put your energy aside during readings. I find I have to get rid of my energies before reading for someone else.
     
  8. Aerianne

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    Yes, and this is difficult to do across the board, whether attempting readings or just attempting to offer someone advice.

    It's important to remember that each person's path to their truth is their own, and that the ways in which they need to get to that truth (their "lessons") are unique to their needs.

    Much as we might like to spare someone the pain of walking through the fire, we really cannot. It is the fire which purifies.
     
  9. zengizmo

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    Well said.

    I once did a reading by interpreting visual symbols that appeared in my mind. I was pleased with the accuracy of the reading, and I suppose I could try doing more like that, however I don't really care for that method. I suppose that's cuz I have been around people who just knew things, without any symbolic intermediary of any sort, and that seems to me the simplest and best way to be. I kinda feel like if I can't be like that, then I just am not psychic enough for whatever reason, and that is pretty much that.

    But I do frequently check on my intuitions about various people and situations in my life, to see if there's anything I can glean from subtle feelings, or if any thoughts pop into my mind with a certain feeling of certainness. I suppose that's my method of exercising.

    One problem I have is that I'm too emotionally attached to outcomes. I sometimes play this out in my mind as wishful thinking, and sometimes as its opposite - fatalism.

    There is the spirit of a person in my mind who is ostensibly trying to "help" me on this path. I think she's trying to loosen my ego's grip on everything, and to promote more inner peace. However her method of accomplishing this very frequently makes me pissed as hell, which is the opposite of the intended outcome, as far as I can tell. Other times I cooperate with the process, and make deliberate efforts to keep my ego in line - which btw is kinda like wrestling a slimy serpent. ;)
     
  10. windy

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    Great thread old crone. I tried the mirror reflection technique and it worked beautifully. As a matter of fact I was surprised at how well it worked.
     
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    I tried the pendulum and mirror.. I thought the pendulum was perhaps working, but I dont think it was.

    I was trying to feel my dog who passed..
     
  12. old_crone

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    Glad many are enjoying this thread and adding their experiences to it. Thank You for sharing.

    Zengizmo
    Was thinking in reading your post and experiences that there are many different types of readings and formats for transferring information. One of those is called Impacting. This is where the one sending takes on an adversary role and desires to get our attention. Impacting can be far more destructive than helpful. As with any communication You are the ruling factor and set the guide lines for what type or how the information comes through. Hard to change once an old program is set in motion but not impossible. Some like the impacting because this is how they validate they are getting information. Who knows maybe you are here to show your guides a new way of communicating.

    Emotional attachment will color any reading and not always offer a full truthful experience. Emotions can be tools or weapons depending on how we use them. Emotions can also be addictive and habit forming even when the usefulness has worn out its welcome. Always be clear on the egos part in psychic communication. When the ego has a job and feels useful the ego becomes the ally in helping us with what we seek to do. The ego fears its own death and seeks only to be loved and remembered. What you get for the love and remembrance in return can be truly amazing. Again you are the controlling factor and set the stage for the information to play out before you. How you see the bigger picture does matter.

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    BtrFly
    When trying to connect to a specific person, animal or energy look for the vibration or the energy imprint, style or signature imprint of the one you are trying to connect with. Every living thing has a signature imprint and individual style. Animals and pets are very tuned to this.

    When communicating with specific animals or familiars I often use these methods.
    1. Purr, or Still Method.
    here you sit still and move into a vibration of feeling and sound you remember when the one crossed was with you. Sit with this feeling and sound. The vibration and energy of your friend will come through. Be open and do not judge or dismiss information that comes through. Examine it all later. For example while writing this reply I see a dog with three colors on it as if sitting at the door wanting to go out. The next image I see it running through a yard and hear it barking. I know it must be chasing something. Next I feel it come happily up behind me very proud of its adventure. Neat energy and lots of love are felt. Not sure where this fits in but wanted to share with you what I saw and felt.

    2. Candle Gazing.
    With memories of the one you want to connect with sit and softly gaze into a light from a burning candle. This in energy almost feels like you are calling the one you wish to communicate with. They will align their vibration to yours. Keep your focus and wait. Again do not judge the information or pictures that come through, examine them later.

    3. Circle Sitting
    Form a circle, preferably out side under a tree. Sit in the circle with something that reminds you of the one you are wishing to connect with. Close your eyes and energy will do the rest. The vail to the other side is not that far away. Allow your mind and heart to feel the memories you have of the one you want to connect with. You will know what is yours and what is coming through.

    4. Dreaming
    Here before bed wish to dream of the one you want to connect with. Imagine them, see them and as sleep comes so will your desire be filled.

    All communication comes through Vibrations. Tapping into or finding the right vibration is easier that you might think. This becomes much like recognizing notes in a song.

    Again thank you all for stopping in and sharing your thoughts and experiences.
     
  13. lovelyxmalia

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    Shifting my dreams and candle gazing have helped me focus on communicating with my father.

    He'd come to me sporadically but with a trained mind, I am able to will him almost any time now.
     
  14. zengizmo

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    Old Crone, thank you for your insights and suggestions.

    I've been thinking about all this. I'm thinking now that maybe I should stay out of discussions of psychic techniques, because I think this is really not my path.

    The first "spirit guide" who started responding out loud to my unspoken thoughts was a woman I'll call Danni. I didn't know her at all when she first started doing this - almost immediately after I had told the universe with a feeling of deep certainty that I wanted to have psychic experiences and write a book about them, and I wanted to simplify my life by being transparent, and I wanted an enlightened person/spirit in my mind at all times to direct my thoughts toward obtaining mystical union with the Divine.

    Danni spoke to me out loud from a distance for a few months before I made the transition from resentment to love, and though I had not yet started to hear her telepathic voice in my mind, I knew she could hear mine, and I asked her to meet me in the break room at lunch time and have a face to face conversation with me.

    At break time I found her sitting right next to the microwave oven, and as I heated my lunch she was friendly and outgoing with me, and we had our first face to face conversation.

    After talking about lots of things that people talk about when getting acquainted, after everyone else had left the room, Danni dropped her volume and told me quietly, "I used to have even more powers than I have now." After a pause in which I tried to get past my surprise and absorb what she had said, she continued, "Don't try to get powers. Just read the Bible and do what it says." And that was pretty much her last word on the subject, though her distant remarks continued, and our relationship developed in the mental realm.

    Part of me wants to "get powers" very much. However I think I won't accomplish that by practicing psychic techniques. I think I'm on a path of spiritual development that will lead - as a byproduct - to the kind of profound psychic knowledge that Danni and her friend Mia and my longstanding mental friend Deanna have been demonstrating to me for years. I'm not saying that psychic techniques have no value - and I might even remember some of the ones you've described here and use them in some circumstances at some point, if it seems called for. I'm just thinking this is not the path I want to pursue.

    It seems like this thread provided a catalyst for me to consider this issue and solidify it in my mind. It seems to be a sort of sideways or backhanded answer to my complaint to Deanna a couple weeks ago that I did not seem to be getting any more psychic under her spiritual tutelage, and that if she were really doing me any good it seems like my psychic sense should be deepening. I think I need to accept that psychic development is not my true goal, but just a likely eventual byproduct of the true goal, which is spiritual growth.

    At least that's what I'm currently thinking...

    But Old Crone, I always enjoy reading your beautiful, insightful, inspirational posts, and I always come away from those readings feeling that I've gained something from them. Thanks for letting me articulate my thoughts here, though this is kind of off the subject of the thread.
     
  15. old_crone

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    Hi Zengizmo

    So glad you shared your thoughts. Power or getting power is not what this life is about. Yet there are some who crave the validation they think power will offer them. Power to me is a bit like shit running down the proverbial shoot on a rainy day. There are consequences to and for the choices we each make.

    I am glad you have enjoyed my writings.
    I am also glad you share your voice and thoughts here in the psychic forum as you do. Thank you. If we all were the same how stagnate our lives would be.
     
  16. usedtobehoney

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    Thanks for sharing that zengizmo...it reminds me of a time when I too became a bit jaded about my connection to the psychic energies.

    At the time I was connected to a *(false) teacher and felt it was my job to follow in their footsteps. At this time I became very connected to gaining more powers, having more proof and validation, my ego started to dominate. After being enthralled in that trap for awhile I shook out of it and decided I really wanted nothing to do with psychic energies. Stepping back was good for me, but not long afterwards I realized the core of my journey was in that I couldn't ignore those energies and my real purpose for working in the psychic realm is to manage and feel stable and support with that energy that I'm already perceiving and to help others connect, as well as of course to grow spiritually. Not to say this is what you're going through, but it reminded me of that time in my journey.
     
  17. zengizmo

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    Honey, I'm glad you can relate with what I'm talking about. And I can very well understand the path you've been on, from your description, and why you feel a renewed need to help others connect. I think there can be a lot of value in that path for lots of people. It seems to me a good thing that you encountered that desire for power and validation, so you were able to sort out the true value of the psychic connections from the ego-driven perks, so that what you bring to others - and to yourself - is of real importance.

    In my case the spirits have made it all too clear to me that they can choose to grant me profound psychic abilities at any time. They have sometimes given me temporary abilities and then taken them away, as if to make the point clear. So at least for me, it looks like they're telling me to just blow off psychic development and concentrate on spiritual development. I really think I have no choice, but it helps me to understand this and to be at peace with it, and to align my own will with the will of the spirits in this matter.
     
  18. windy

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    have you always had (natural) psychic ability old crone or is this something you developed and worked at over the years.
     
  19. old_crone

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    Hi Windy

    Yes, this is a natural ability that has grown over the years. Tried to turn it off at one point and run away from myself but found in the end I was only running deeper into the awareness and ability, if that makes sense.

    I remember as a child seeing these amazing colors and textures around people. I thought everyone could see them. Learned they were called auras. So the hard part was learning what I had or could do was called. That is why Healing, Energy work, Self empowerment, Teaching, Writing and using this natural ability is so important to me. As I honor the ability and gifts within me they continue to grow and expand.

    I know every living thing has this awareness and psychic connection inside them. I also know this ability goes many different directions and sometimes is never developed or abused. Many readers do not know how to seperate what is theirs and what is not and often get burnt out. Some use this ability as a power trip and ego trip. A true ability will speak for itself.

    But back to your question. Yes I was born this way and its a natural ability that is constantly teaching me humbleness.
     
  20. Rick Waid

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    I can not give it up. I tried so many times but my dreams always bring me back. They are very strong dreams and very spiritual. I am always very powerful and can do almost anything in them from healing on spot to having many come to me at one time trying to touch me. Very strong dreams that are trying to tell me either to get more knowledge or never give it up. You are such a great writer. I like to read you stuff.
     
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