Question about LSA...

Hey guys. I've been reading the forums for a while now and I've been extremely interested in trying to take some LSA with friends. We've talked about dropping acid back in Elementary and Middle School, but now that we're seniors in High School and the chance has been presented to us to try a less potent and less harsh psychedelic, my one friend is extremely nervous, almost to the point of being down right afraid, of flashbacks and/or HPPD resulting from the consumption of LSA. From what I understand, both symptoms are unlikely to develop from LSD, so I would think the risk would be even lower from LSA... Am I right to believe this, or should we actually be worried about these after effects? Laters.

 

LSA is not less potent than LSD, due to some side effects and nastiness. it may be worse than true LSD..

 

I find the mental experience is at par with LSD, but the visual and the body experience are very unique. It's less visual, and you feel very lethargic and noodle-like at some points of the trip. I'd say you experience a lot more ill effects from LSA than actual LSD due to whatever content makes you nauseous, not to mention the unpleasant vascular flow issues in the limbs that some people get. I am lucky to say that I don't really experience nausea from them, but believe me, some people get violently ill for about an hour or so from the raw seed material. I find alot of it is in your head, and if you don't let it bug you, it goes away promptly. Do not drop any kind of acid if you're having second thoughts, that's my theory as to why you'd develop something like PTSD from it (it's all in your head, the acid isn't making you think anything). The people that have had bad trips with me, don't seem too different other than the fact that they learned a valuable life lesson about psychedelics. They haven't reported any flashbacks of any sort. My advice is: make sure your seeds are organic, make sure your seeds are quality (recommend ololiqui or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose if available), make time for how long it lasts, be in a comfortable group/location for everyone, and be prepared to combat nausea (ginger/peppermint tea is my personal favorite to combine with LSA). Love n light.

 

lsa always made me very sleepy after the trip. Lsd did not.

 

LSA and LSD are going to be almost identical in every way.. That's what was astounding, on a molecular level. They're almost the exact same thing. Where LSA is going to differ is from other compounds found in the seed. Morning Glories may be treated. Meaning you will get sick off of consumption, you'll most likely throw up and be fine later. If they're untreated, you are still digesting parts of the seed that are not LSA. It's not dangerous in any way, but it will change some of the effects.

I feel LSA can have a more natrual feel, maybe that's all in my head.. LSA seems to carry a stronger body high, and visuals though very evident feel a bit different. But to be fair, my acid visuals have changed from trip to trip to.

No point in worrying about HPPD. That's like two virgins worrying about an STD the first time they have sex.

 

That actually made things %100 percent clear, lol. Thanks for the advice!

 

No, they aren't.

 

^ i've had a few experiences with both, and they were strangely similar

 

yes..

 

I see what your getting at with this statement, but to say it that way makes the two sound more similar than they really are, and causes the misconception that LSA=LSD, which it doesn't. The two are both lysergamides, but as for how related they are chemically, it makes little difference how different the molecule is. The fact that it is different means that it is an entirely new molecule with its own unique effects. They can have some similar effects, but to say that they are almost identical in every way isn't correct.

 

that, i also find lsa to be way more euphoric than lsd

...by me i mean my pet zebra

 

Agree with this statement.

 

I have to disagree with this. People come in hearing about these seeds not believing that it'll even have an effect, never mind such a strong mind altering one.

LSA is practically natures LSD, it's as close as any product will be. I've also seen many documentaries on how close they are to each other. I think it's more than fair to say they are almost identical. I'm not saying LSA=LSD, but I am saying LSA is approximentally (sp?) equal to LSD. You will experience similar effects to acid if you take these seeds. It's not something to underestimate.

 

It's all a matter of diction, and how one interprets it, but I feel like comparing them so closely will generally elicit a misconception about what LSA is. A better way would be to say that the two are entirely separate and unique drugs which can have some similar effects.

To say that LSA is almost exactly like LSD is like saying that 2c-i is almost exactly like 2c-b. They have similar structures but they're completely different drugs.

 

I respect you and your opinions eatlysergicacid

However I stand by what I say, and in reflection to the OP question, my point is you shouldn't take LSA because you are afraid of LSD and the risks of HPPD

 

I agree with this...

Far as I understand it, even the slightest tweak to chemicals molecular structure can make the compound entirely different.

 

I gotta agree that they're similar, but very different.. the way you think is the basically acid, but what you think about and how you relate concepts to each other is different. I also find the LSA trip kinda "grinds". It's not as lucid and free as LSD, there's just some weird friction there..

Smoking a dooch helps the nausea and if you're going for a purely recreational trip then I'd recommend it, but if you wanna actually get down to things and learn as much as possible from the experience it's probably best if you don't smoke. At least until the end.. MJ just makes things foggy when you're at that level of awareness, you could argue that it even brings you down a little bit.

That's gold.

 

I am in no way afraid of LSD, in fact I'd rather use that. I really want a spiritual, learning experience that can be enjoyed with some friends that I completely trust with my life. I have no second thoughts about using it, but where I live it is a little hard to come across actual acid. As such, I thought maybe LSA would be a good alternative to bring myself further into the psychedelic world for now and pursue LSD at a later time. Thank you for the opinions!

 

Based off of that, yes LSA would be a good alternative. The only real negative will be some nasuea on the come up. I've had some powerful spiritual trips on LSA for sure

 

What about mushrooms?