I've come to the conclusion that women are as looks driven as men maybe more

I see. So it's not an insult if it's the majority opinion. By that logic, if another person comes in here and calls you a retard, it's not an insult. so much for your good argumentation skills and flawless logic.

Besides I didn't think someone would be enough of an ass burger to not realize the gist of my message.

 

Yes and your concept was wrong and Bill gates is not 1-3, he is about 4-5 but who's counting? His wife is maybe a 5. They even have similar features.

Look just open your eyes. The next time you see a good looking guy, try to imagine that he's average or even ugly. Would the girl talking to him be showing any interest at all if he was ugly/average?

 

You miss the meaning of what being called a troll on the internet is obviously.

 

Actually in real life walking down the street, I've seen girls that are 8-10's holding onto the arm of a boyfriend who I would rate as a 5.

I don't see it super often, but I see it often enough when I go out to make a challenge to the absolute statement you said at the beginning of your thread.

But you've retracted, begrudgingly your original statement passing it off as same main concept you were trying to address all along. So I have no problem to what you are saying anymore?

Also I'm not the one who brought up Gates in the conversation. So you can't use his personal example to argue against me.

Why so serious to my responses bro?

 

This was my original statement:
"I've come to the conclusion that women are as looks driven as men maybe more"

but it's k, now that I've realized you are in fact an assburger who likes to take things literally, I've given up my trollish facade and taken on a more serious tone with more rigorous arguments to suit your eclectic tastes.

Bill Gates is about a 4-5. Have you seen men who look like bill walking hand in hand with women who look like this?



no you see her with men who look like this:



and sometimes this:

 

The answer is yes, but not super often, but not a super rarity either since most people are around average anyway.

Again, I didn't bring Gates into thread in the first place.

 

I might use that line rollin, that's pretty halarious.

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@gnikllort one my of personal friends is a 4, and he has at least a 6-7 girlfriend.

Maybe he doesn't have a 9-10, but he still scored upwards in the looks department. But he met her in real life at college, not through some dating website.

But of course your going to reject this example because your looking for examples of a 7 and below scoring a 9-10 looks girl. <(poisoning the well fallacy by setting up unrealistic expectations from the beginning)

 

I'm responding to your example of a 10 girl. You poisoned the well if anything by bringing up that example. Are you really this thick headed?

Secondly, this is not about making a perfect theory. I'm only mentioning the most pertinent reason why women aren't interested in you and it's often glossed over every time some guy brings up the fact that he can't find a girl. It's usually his face + body. Not his intelligence, confidence, or personality.

 

Ok in all fairness that might be a problem then, because it's impossible for us to communicate what our number scales mean, because we're just on a forum with text only.

So I digress, that is a limitation on this medium of communication.

Yeah of course, it's not about making a perfect theory, nothing is perfect, but it should've been about being realistic.

It sounds like you just want to rant unchallenged. If that's the case get a blog, forums are for discussions and debates.
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But before I go

^Nope your re-established definitions, not my idea of a 9-10. I was referencing that.

 

I should add that I do believe that what women are seeking, changes the criterion filter she would use for a fling or for marriage.

You've kinda lumped both topics under a bigger topic of what girls find attractive, and honestly this does change I think with growth and development. (for both men and women)

 

I mentioned that on the first page. It's category 3. Before she starts thinking about marriage it's 85% looks after that it's maybe 50%.

The only thing that grows and develops is the nagging feeling women will have that their youth is passing, and so she will settle for a less than optimal partner.

"Women's preferences are as follows from most preferable to least:

1)A good looking guy who treats her well and is faithful to her. This is the ideal catch. He is the prince women are looking for.

2)A good looking guy who doesn't treat her well. She's willing to tolerate his bull shit because he's good looking. A girl might have a few flings with men like this but she will(if she is smart) begrudgingly admit that he will never come around and become a man in the first category. A guy in this category can easily fuck his way through dozens of women by the time he hits his 30s.

3)A guy who isn't good looking but treats her well. If he's well grounded with good financial prospects, he looks like a decent marriage material. Women in their late 20s will start noticing these guys when they start thinking about marriage.

4)A guy who isn't good looking and doesn't treat her well. He's shit out of luck."

 

I know I read the first page over before making that post and I have a general problem with the premise of your argument because it assumes that if a girl meets category 1) she'll stop dating other guys because she's hit the ideal already.

My view on your entire scale is that it's too ridgid, and doesn't account for the fact that some girls just wanna play the field just like boys do. (especially in their teens) It also doesn't point out the real possibility that girls don't always KNOW when they've found a partner in their youth or even early adulthood that IS A KEEPER.

What about women who don't want to settle and instead focus on their career and have friends with benefits or a open relationship?

So many dynamics of life just aren't expressed in your categorization. I'm sorry.

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Oh yeah in category 3) if it were true on a large scale, you'd find lot less guys stuck in the friendzone.

 

Women are picky. Eggs are expensive. Sperm is cheap. yada yada yada

They go with category 2 men

I'm sure if you can find another page consisting of 200 words then I'd be glad to read it. As I said, I'm not here to come up with a perfect theory. You expect too much out of a forum post lol. "If it doesn't explain everything about life then I don't like it."

I would be extremely delighted to read your 200 word post on how life works.

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Women aren't too concerned with marriage when they're young anymore. Hence, the "friendzone".

 

I don't expect to much, you set the bar to low and shape your beliefs on a simple way of viewing the world. I bet the vibe you give off to women if you behave like this in real life are:

1. His logic's offensive
2. He's got a chip on his shoulder and is insecure
3. Avoid him because he's scary, which then combined with average looks comes off as creepy.

Sorry you find reading so annoying. Your loss.

 

Oh yeah another celebrity example:

Steven Tyler of areosmith and his late wife.

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Is he really done with the thread? Cool.

Is anybody else willing to come to enter the conversation now? Who do you think made the stronger argument?

 

tldr.


theres a lot of fish in the sea. but you may have to look a long time. some people find such a time consuming search to be a waste of time. a lot of jerk girls out there, a lot of angels. some women need exactly one type of man, some like pretty, some rugged, some a bid dick, some sensitive, some plain, some boring, some ugly, some have no preference, some only care about talk, some only about body.
it's a lot of work to find your own type.

 

And you might have to get a girl with the same physical attractiveness as you. Sorry man, but it's true. I'm a decent looking guy, and I wouldn't date a girl that I considered less attractive than me.

 

I can see that. But you also have to acknowledge that guys who are just looking to get laid sometimes, might settle just for the act of sex. Of course this is a jerk move, but it happens.

 

Yeah, that wasn't my point at all. My point was that you don't know what "they" are interested in. It's an unsatisfying answer, but everybody IS different.